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Old 06-07-06, 03:55 PM   #1
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"Alters" brain chemistry, not "screws up." Again, that's why I say monitoring is important. You can't "fire and forget" with anti-depressants.
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"Alters" brain chemistry, not "screws up." Again, that's why I say monitoring is important. You can't "fire and forget" with anti-depressants.
I have witness the results of these drugs from two friends I used to have both of them took stronger and stronger drugs. Both committed suicide
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Old 06-07-06, 04:01 PM   #3
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I have witness the results of these drugs from two friends I used to have both of them took stronger and stronger drugs. Both committed suicide
I am sorry.
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What a horribly bad idea.
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I am sorry.
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Old 06-07-06, 04:13 PM   #6
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"Chemically, escitalopram is very similar to citalopram. Both are in the class of drugs called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), a class that also includes fluoxetine (Prozac)..."
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I have witness the results of these drugs from two friends I used to have both of them took stronger and stronger drugs. Both committed suicide
Have you perceived changes in their personality? This is a symptom that often got descroibed by consuments, saiyng they felt as if a new, artificial persoanlity had been laid over their original, depressive one, making them sometimes feel like a prisoner in their own mind. In the psychiatry were I did my first "Praktikum" they used this - then relatively new - drug only with extreme hesitation and regular scanning exactly for this. I don'T know how they see it today, but back then (roughly mid-90s) Prozac had a very bad reputation amongst professionals.
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Have you perceived changes in their personality?
Yes from the feel good factor to black moods.
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I do not mean extreme swings in mood. But have they felt like being another person, or a person that has no more control over themselves, or is controlled by someone/something else - how ever they described it or how ever you perceived it. That would be an indication that Prozac maybe was not the best choice for them.Anyhow, it's to late now.
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GP's in the UK are a bit to fond of handing out drugs most likely due to their time limit seeing their patients, 10 minutes and that's your lot.
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This is the dictionary definition of cure (courtesy of dictionary.com):

cure ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kyr)
n.
  1. Restoration of health; recovery from disease.
  2. A method or course of medical treatment used to restore health.
  3. An agent, such as a drug, that restores health; a remedy.
  4. Something that corrects or relieves a harmful or disturbing situation: The cats proved to be a good cure for our mouse problem.
  5. Ecclesiastical. Spiritual charge or care, as of a priest for a congregation.
  6. The office or duties of a curate.
  7. The act or process of preserving a product.
v. cured, cur·ing, cures
v. tr.
  1. To restore to health.
  2. To effect a recovery from: cure a cold.
  3. To remove or remedy (something harmful or disturbing): cure an evil.
  4. To preserve (meat, for example), as by salting, smoking, or aging.
  5. To prepare, preserve, or finish (a substance) by a chemical or physical process.
  6. To vulcanize (rubber).
My definition of cure would agree with the first paragrapgh, line 1, but also the prevention of future occurences.

For example, the flu/cold season. A good part of the U.S. population will purchase drugs and vaccines for the flu/cold season. Yet the flu/cold season still takes a huge toll on the economy every year due to the overall number of employees who aren't working. Why is that? And isn't the flu preventable with good health habits?

I'm willing to bet than in that part of the population few exercise regularly, eat healthy, or go in for regular checkups. If these kinds of living habits were normal among these people, the flu/cold wouldn't hit them so hard because their immune system would be able to cope with the flu/cold on its own without outside interference (other than a days' rest?).

Our family may be unique, but I have not been sick (with either cold or flu or anything) for over 9 years. I exercise regularly, eat healthy, but I have never gone in for checkups since graduating HS, and I've never had any vaccines other than what the school required.

Granted, one cannot make a blanket cure or sure-fire procedure to never get sick, but this isn't all that difficult to do and greatly boosts your health.
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but back then (roughly mid-90s) Prozac had a very bad reputation amongst professionals.
Probably from cases like that of the Massachusetts man who, right about that time frame, murdered his entire family in a prozac induced psycosis. IIRC the jury was not impressed with that defense.
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