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Old 08-25-19, 02:43 PM   #1
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I think for me this depends on age. A one month baby is not going to be a threat in any way.

This may be true. However, it does raise the issue as to who would care for the child if the parents themselves are not allowed back in. Further, a child whose parents were not allowed re-entry may grow to adulthood and seek out retribution and retaliate many years later. I believe the U.K is correct in denying entry to former Isis members and their families.
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Old 08-26-19, 05:53 AM   #2
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This may be true. However, it does raise the issue as to who would care for the child if the parents themselves are not allowed back in. Further, a child whose parents were not allowed re-entry may grow to adulthood and seek out retribution and retaliate many years later. I believe the U.K is correct in denying entry to former Isis members and their families.
Those children have legal rights. If they are UK citizens (and my assumption is that they are), then in principle they should be allowed back in, unless there is a significant reason to believe that they are a danger to the society (ie if they have a history of being an ISIS operative at the age of 16 for example).
And even then an argument can be made that they should be let back in because they are citizens and if we deny entry to citizens now for this reason we may deny it in future for another (ie for not being progressive enough).

In either case I think that they should face a due process (a trial with the proper appeal process if there is a significant reason to suspect that they are going to be a problem) and not just a slap on by the executive branch.
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Old 08-27-19, 06:34 AM   #3
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Here in the UK there are already procedures in place and due process is adhered to.
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I know from media sources regarding immigration procedures at our southern border. It is thought to be a fate worse than death for a child to be separated from their parents.
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I consider there to be a distinct difference between children of illegal immigrants and those of terrorists and their supporters.
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I consider there to be a distinct difference between children of illegal immigrants and those of terrorists and their supporters.

My thoughts exactly.
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Sure, one group is not made out of your country's citizens and the other is. Now if you do not let the children of terrorists back in, does this mean that you deny their voting rights?



Now immagine if you can deny voting rights based not on what you did but on what you parents (ancestors) did. Do we deny voting rights to the children of NAZI party members in Germany? Do we deny voting rights to white people in US?
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