Lets talk about grills

[Rockstar]

When you get ready for your 2 week cross country bicycle tour of Europe the Optimus will come in handy. Lightweight, compact and no need to spend money at restaurants for an overpriced prepared meal.

[Mr Quatro]

Some of those stoves don't look safe to me especially on a balcony above other people feeding wood or coal into it.

Jim's looks like a more traditional way to barbecue they even have one that uses wood chips or should I say wood pellets sold in big bags to go with it.

Think safe ... you don't need a mad neighbor

[Mr Quatro]

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[Skybird]

Some of those stoves don't look safe to me especially on a balcony above other people feeding wood or coal into it.

Jim's looks like a more traditional way to barbecue they even have one that uses wood chips or should I say wood pellets sold in big bags to go with it.

Think safe ... you don't need a mad neighbor

Nothing but blue sky above me, my loggia is 3rd floor, at the very top (2nd floor in german counting).

A rocket stove on coals is fully encapsuled from the bottom (ceramic plates), all sides (double elayed isolated wall, often with filed-i ceramics, and the opening on top covewred by a pan, Dutch oven or anything. This looks indeed much safer to me (sparkles) than any fully open or half-open BBC grill, even more sicne the stoves are heavy and not easy to kick. The usally burn wood at temperatures where exhaust gas from the fire gets mixed with air and then creates an gasification effect - especially the Petromax rf33 excels in this regard, is smeel- and smoke-free for that reason, they added special ventilation design into the double walls that can be opened and closed.

A pocket oven burns wood pellets. Heck: dry wood, dry gras, dry biomass is what mankind has invented them for in the very first!

Placed on the ground (stone plates, maybe also using a metal plate over them), it looks safe to me. safer than lighter, higher constructions. Note that the pan almost closes the opening on the top. With coals, the big door open in the picture would be closed, and the small door below the front grid would be opened to let oxygene in. the coals lie on the second, the upper inner level, get air-feed from below, not the side.






If feeding longer pieces of wood is a safety concern, why not breaking them into smaller things and keep the big door shut, lifting the pan, put the wood inside, and replace the pan? Like you woudl do with wood pellets?

The things weighs 7.5 kg, and has a low centre of mass. Its wider and not as high as the Petromax rf33.

Another advantage of rocket ovens, I read, all of them, is that they are the most fuel economic grills/ovens, needing just fractions of the coal load other devices need. You can get away with just one quarter of the coal you would need on some other grills. This is due to their good isolation and possible wood gasification.

We still have kitchens, in professional gastronomy anyway, where they use open fire as well: in form of gas ovens. Sometimes even coal/wood ovens (Asian restaurants). I love to use a gas stove, its much better than electric ovens, no matter the type. Open fire and cast iron pots or pans are an unbeatable combo.

I think these things are way more dangerous, and a nuisance (smell) to others:

Sparks:


Getting kicked off:


English video, 5 minutes explaining the advantages of the Ecozoom Versa.
What hoos me: coal for peace times and civilized BBQ, wood/biomass for prpper-kind of doomsday scenarios where yiou ma yhave run out of coal. I like multi-functioning equipment it it makes no compromises.




And reiterating it again, if done correctly and using the right dry wood or coal - no smell, no smoke. In an urban environment with plenty of neighbours around, that is a key argument.

[Skybird]

My Ecozoom Versa arrived today, and it proved to become love on first unpacking.

Manufatcurign qulity looks very solid to me, ver ynice, the thing is 6.6 kg heavy and has a low centre of mass, so does not fall off easily. I aldeady tested the rockjet engines this evening, both with charcoal and wood. The first was a close miss, the second a full success. I know what I dids wriong, so I can live with it: I loaded a boit to little coal, and so I ost heat too early. Thgansk to the good meat qulaity and a 1 minute shower in the microwave, the steak was saved for consummation nevertheless. It was very good meat qulkaity ot my surprise (it was cheap), and so was juicy and the cooking grade still was "medioumn", olike I prefer it.

In the vidoe below I give a visual inspection of the oven and show combinations with different cooking gear. I left out the failed BBQ attempt, and closed with the cooking on fire instead.

The BBQ optionj is a relasity, however do not ignore that this thing is small and doesnot offer you a full sized grilling grid like a Web or somethign of that kind. You can grill one prtion at a time, one piece of meat , sionce the chimney is of that small size, and noit any bigger. If you keep that on m ind, this grill works, and works very safely - but using it will cost you friendships.

This thing satisfies both the balcony hero and garden griller as well as the camping trapper and doomsday prepper. Great gear to have, i do not regret it. Recommended! Just do not consider it a valid item for trekking and hiking, for that it still is too heavy.

[vienna]

Wait... what?...


Oh, grills...


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[mapuc]

They look very interesting indeed.

Those videos made me remember something from my childhood or was it during my teenager year.

Some friends and I was invited by an another friend to some scout event.
We sad around an open fire and there was three or four metal sticks-sorry I don't know what they call this type of connection/building but a kettle hang under the top of this connection/building in a chain.

They, the leader of this scout unit was cooking Hungary Gullasch over open fire.

I have never since then tasted so good Gullasch.

We ate it with flutés baked over open fire.

Markus