US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by vienna

...in the context of the 'whining' quotients. Your post said...


...when, in fact, there was a whole lot of whining about Obama, while he was in office, and an awful lot of it was present in postings on these forums.

Now don't go altering my words. I said there wasn't as much whining, not that there wasn't any.

[mapuc]

So Mr. Trump have decided to pay Denmark a little visit on 2 and 3th of Sept. this year.

I guess it comes as no surprise for you that those Danes who's against him dislike this decision.

And those who support him are happy.

Whether you like an another countries head of state or not

You show this person respect, when visit your country.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

^ Tell that to those who will undoubtedly be demonstrating on the streets during the visit.

Most if not all countries have them.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by mapuc

So Mr. Trump have decided to pay Denmark a little visit [...]
Whether you like an another countries head of state or not
You show this person respect, when visit your country.
Markus

Already forgotten? https://www.thelocal.dk/20181029/dan...scare-campaign

There will be the usual demonstrations, only in this case it is Trump who bullies your own politicians on a different level. Respect requires mutual respect.

[Jimbuna]

US President Donald Trump has said he will impose a fresh 10% tariff on another $300bn (£247bn) of Chinese goods, in a sharp escalation of a trade war between the two countries.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49199559

I'm not sure if there is anything else that can be tariffed other than raising those already imposed.

The US has formally withdrawn from a nuclear treaty with Russia, raising fears of a new arms race.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49198565

Far more worrying, this could trigger an arms race.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

So Mr. Trump have decided to pay Denmark a little visit on 2 and 3th of Sept. this year.

I guess it comes as no surprise for you that those Danes who's against him dislike this decision.

And those who support him are happy.

Whether you like an another countries head of state or not

You show this person respect, when visit your country.

Markus

Its your country, and so your rules. You are free to respect or disrespect whomever you like.



Be a bit more chosey in whom you pay respect to. Some deserve it. Sometimes its a quesiton of mere politeness. Sometimes somebody deserves none.


And finally, its a thing of reciprocity.

[ikalugin]

And so the INF treaty is dead.

[August]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

And so the INF treaty is dead.

Not that your side has ever paid much heed to it according to what I hear.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by August

Not that your side has ever paid much heed to it according to what I hear.

Of course you heard that.
It is what all people hear from their "leaders".

[Skybird]

I think its true what is said, that both sides wanted this treaty to go, because it binds their hands on their backs while China is free to do what it wants. And they have pushed development and stationing immensely, always eyeing Taiwan. The new Russian-Chinese military cooperation is opportunistic alliance against a shared rival (US/West), and not a heart-felt love affair.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by August

Not that your side has ever paid much heed to it according to what I hear.

I have seen mutual accusations of INF violations happen long before 2014 heh.


But yea, it is now dead, we had a party mourning it's passing heh.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I think its true what is said, that both sides wanted this treaty to go, because it binds their hands on their backs while China is free to do what it wants. And they have pushed development and stationing immensely, always eyeing Taiwan. The new Russian-Chinese military cooperation is opportunistic alliance against a shared rival (US/West), and not a heart-felt love affair.

Could well be some merit in this

[vienna]

Originally Posted by em2nought

Now don't go altering my words. I said there wasn't as much whining, not that there wasn't any.

So, you take umbrage? Well, if you had carefully and closely looked at the quote I was responding to, you would have noticed it wasn't your, but, rather something Neal had posted (Post #7288);

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

...

Because we didn't whine about Obama is more reason to get rid of Trump? Still don't understand what you are trying to say.

...

Now, I realize, for whatever reason, the proper attribution failed to show up when I copied the quote in question, but you should have taken note of the fact it wasn't attributable to you...

This is what it has come down to at last: "fake" News, Fake President, and, now, Fake Umbrage!!...




...to take credit for a quote not your own is shocking; to take umbrage on top of that, and accuse me falsely of altering your words, well, I must take umbrage, in fact High Umbrage!!...









I say "Good Day to you, sir!!"...








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[Mr Quatro]

Sounds more like you (vienna) were drunk then and sober now, but all I have to go on is your written words

[Skybird]

In the trade war against China, the US is about to knock out itself. And the Chinese just have started to retribute in force. Trump, on the other hand, already has spent all the arrows in his quiver.


https://translate.google.de/translat...-blank-da.html


And while Trumpoian America sees China as inferior to the US, Europe still sees China as relatively harmless and driven by good will and Europe being on same eye level with it. A lethal misconception that does not meet neither European options, nor Chinese self-understanding. That Western business so desperately tries to get access to chinese markets only to get stripped of its technological knowhow and being forced to help nursing the giant that ion the futurer will crack Wertdsenr business, I cannot understand since over 20 years now. The total absence of longterm strategic thinking in Western board of directors, is breathtaking.



But when the dollar sign starts to shine in businessmen's eyes, all reason flees right out of the windows immediately, it seems.