Good missions for playing while learning the game?

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Originally Posted by p7p8

DW 1.04 kilo weapon rack bug.

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Any questions?

Yes, Why do you post a video as a reply to a bug I described, showing another bug?
The video you posted shows a bug that is present on both vanilla DW and RA.

The bug I described in post #11 is a bug on the loadout screen, you know, the one before mission, not in mission:
"or the bug on some weapon loadout screens that show a rack free space number that is not correct and you try to increase some weapon count while still having 2 or more available spaces to fill but it just doesn't increase"
This bug is not present in vanilla DW, only RA.
Please, post a video showing the bug I described in the loadout screen before mission, on original DW.

Originally Posted by p7p8

Yes - i know about this. This is why you should always change weapon loads from default. And its also DW engine bug - it doesn't work correct if you change (by programming) weapon load for new submarines.

No, in vanilla DW you do not have to go to loadout screen before mission to have a default loadout in mission.
Any mod adding playables should replicate that behaviour, and that is perfectly possible as I've done it several times.
RA introduced that bug for some platforms that use the kilo weapon interface.

Originally Posted by p7p8

RA is most advanced mod - where most of vanilla bugs were fixed.

I'm not arguing that. RA is the most advanced mod for DW, but is also the laziest one!
You see, the thing is: all these bugs that I've been describing are fixable, but they just don't care!

Originally Posted by p7p8

DW was released with ugly graphic at that time. Today this graphic looks even worse. But real DW players knows DW don't needs eye-candy graphic. I saw many times discussion there players says - "visual side of this game is ok".

DW graphics were not the best at the time it was released but were not bad either.
But one thing is dated graphics, other thing is buggy graphics with misaligned elements and visual artifacts that don't belong!

EDIT: One thing I agree with you, RA is no better or worse in Single player than it is on multi-player.

[p7p8]

Why do you post a video as a reply to a bug I described, showing another bug?

because this bug causes effect described by you. Its not visible in vanilla - but it doesen't means bug not exist.

The bug I described in post #11 is a bug on the loadout screen, you know, the one before mission, not in mission:
"or the bug on some weapon loadout screens that show a rack free space number that is not correct and you try to increase some weapon count while still having 2 or more available spaces to fill but it just doesn't increase"

this is for preventing vanilla bug from my video. It makes "virtual" space for reloading. Btw number of maximum loadable torpedoes in racks 1-4 are correct (8). If it causes you don't play this mod my opinion about you is not good. You see small bugs but you cannot see all improvements - also vanilla major bug fixes. For me it's ridiculous.

Please, post a video showing the bug I described in the loadout screen before mission, on original DW.

no, its looks like you are "laziest one" - not RA modders :P
If you wish video - make it yourself, mr "laziest one"

You see, the thing is: all these bugs that I've been describing are fixable, but they just don't care!

Nobody except you see this as problem. Usually patches and new versions are releases for fixing major bugs. DW engine is not "MOD" friendly. Often one fix can make 5 new bugs - i have dozens of videos from testing 1 thing!
So nobody (except you) laments for not fixing 3 magenta pixels. Active DW community knows what have highest priority.

One thing I agree with you, RA is no better or worse in Single player than it is on multi-player.

thank you.

Btw you should start to play. Many players still have fun from participating in big MP battles.

Playing is always better than talking about playing.

Today we will play big match (20:00 CEST = 18:00 GMT ) and we still have 3 free slots for players:
- Sierra I
- 2x Kilo improved

[Pirate]

Originally Posted by p7p8

because this bug causes effect described by you. Its not visible in vanilla - but it doesen't means bug not exist.

Oh, I "see"... an invisible bug. That explains why I've never seen it! /s

Originally Posted by p7p8

this is for preventing vanilla bug from my video. It makes "virtual" space for reloading.

Except that vanilla bug from your video is still present in R.A. 1.48.
So, the bug that is invisible in vanilla was made visible in R.A. to prevent the vanilla bug from your video, but in the end the vanilla bug from your video is still present in R.A. 1.48

Originally Posted by p7p8

Btw you should start to play. Many players still have fun from participating in big MP battles.

Thank you for your invitation but multi-player is not my thing. Not in DW, not in SH or any other game.
DW gives me plenty of fun already in single player, being it scripted missions or the random quick missions.
But once again thank you for the invit.

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Except that vanilla bug from your video is still present in R.A. 1.48.

no, it isn't.
If you load full pack of torpedoes and reload again, no one torpedo will disappear.

RA max torpedoes for kilo is 18 - as should be. But in vanilla when you reload with full storage, one topredo will missing - is it so difficult to understand?

So the bug that is invisible in vanilla was made visible in R.A. to prevent the vanilla bug from your video, but in the end the vanilla bug from your video is still present in R.A. 1.48

LOL
read again, maybe this time you will understand this simple dependence. Bug from vanilla is DW engine bug - not possible to correct without risky messing with game files. So simple solution was virtualy increasind max torpedoes number but you stil can load only 8. No matter game shows max is 10. This prevents disappearing torpedos when reloading. Is it clear?

DW gives me plenty of fun already in single player, being it scripted missions or the random quick missions.

Your choice - for me its boring playing against dumb AI with predictable behaviour. Human opponent always is more challenging and i likes challenges

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Originally Posted by p7p8

no, it isn't.

Yes it is.

[p7p8]

ok i didn't know about it. But its still definatelly not "festival of bugs".
My video was for showing vanilla DW is not perfect as you wrote. If you call this "festival of bugs" you can do the same about vanilla or LwAmi DW.
For players it's changes nothing because number of all torpedoes in RA is correct for real kilo class

If it iritates you so much, why you don't fix it? Its very easy to call someone "lazy". Harder is to do something for community. Everyone knows who did more for community - you or Crazy Ivan.

[Pirate]

Originally Posted by p7p8

My video was for showing vanilla DW is not perfect as you wrote.

Ok, where did I wrote vanilla DW is perfect?!

Originally Posted by p7p8

If it iritates you so much, why you don't fix it?

No need. You're the one who brought that bug to this thread, I was talking about the other one!
And it doesn't irritate me, not even a bit, you know why?
Cause I know a trick!
And I'll give it to you for free!

 

Never empty a tube when storage rack is full, only replace it's loaded weapon for another weapon.

Originally Posted by p7p8

Its very easy to call someone "lazy". Harder is to do something for community. Everyone knows who did more for community - you or Crazy Ivan.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings by calling the RA mod the laziest!
I promise I will not do it again.

Peace