The ME, the unknown being?

propbeanie · 03-29-19, 03:27 PM

A "ship" in SH4 will be destroyed when it comes into contact with a "land mass", so the tanks do the same thing. A "platform" for them is just something that they can sit on to keep the from "contacting" said "land mass". Not dark magic, just misplaced technique that has been forgotten. But we'll find it...

The shore batteries are not destructible. If you put a BB off-shore from gun emplacements, they will eventually sink the ship, and be able to take on more. The guns are not very accurate against AI controlled ships though. The set-up is like that more to entertain the player, and draw his eye away from the problem that the earth doesn't lift when a naval shell strikes...

- but really, it's all just for show, or "immersion" as it's called. There could also be a "destructible" version of some of the gun emplacements, so that a person could "see" the massive destruction brought about by bombardment of the Kongo on Guadalcanal... only problem being is "where is that confounded gun emplacement anyway?"...

Jackdaw · 03-30-19, 10:03 AM

That's not really a problem for me. Extensive landing operations are not my thing. The shore batteries are certainly dangerous enough for submarines. Would be worth improving, however, that these guns basically have a field of fire of 360 °? Because I wanted to know that, I had two batteries installed on a slope rising behind them. Waypoint at sea. When I came in the 180 ° behind bay, I could not see a gun, but got for "upgiving/unlearning" purposes
neat firing from these two batteries. This explains the old saying: When fire falls from the sky ...

Where people can find this "...confounded gun emplacement..." I don't know too. Maybe an archaeologist on Henderson Field can help?

propbeanie · 03-30-19, 12:24 PM

Ahhh, but they can elevate the gun, and shoot over the hill, using whoever / whatever spotted you as their "artillery spotter", while using the latest in digital comm technology to give them immediate targeting updates... The shore guns can't hit a docked BB from 1500 yards, but they can sink a moving sub in 3 salvos from 8500... over a hill, no less...

Jackdaw · 03-31-19, 06:32 AM

Ah yes, I forgot! While coastal artillery is actually usually built-in, often bunkered with limited field of fire we have here 360 ° mortars and these, of course, with so-called indirect fire-control-radar or possibly satellite-based? [To get the f-c-r running, take a balloon pulling up an old steel plate; because of the reflection and so on ...

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The other is a problem of dangerousness. Because of the limited negative elevation on battleships, these are likely to be safe near the shore 'cause no threat (

), while an approaching submarine is particularly highly dangerous to near-shore infantry & Co.: (see 2:35 ...)

It reminds me that I need to see the movie again; Already for radio operator Hornsby ...

03-29-19, 03:27 PM	#1
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	A "ship" in SH4 will be destroyed when it comes into contact with a "land mass", so the tanks do the same thing. A "platform" for them is just something that they can sit on to keep the from "contacting" said "land mass". Not dark magic, just misplaced technique that has been forgotten. But we'll find it... The shore batteries are not destructible. If you put a BB off-shore from gun emplacements, they will eventually sink the ship, and be able to take on more. The guns are not very accurate against AI controlled ships though. The set-up is like that more to entertain the player, and draw his eye away from the problem that the earth doesn't lift when a naval shell strikes... - but really, it's all just for show, or "immersion" as it's called. There could also be a "destructible" version of some of the gun emplacements, so that a person could "see" the massive destruction brought about by bombardment of the Kongo on Guadalcanal... only problem being is "where is that confounded gun emplacement anyway?"... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

03-30-19, 12:24 PM	#3
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Ahhh, but they can elevate the gun, and shoot over the hill, using whoever / whatever spotted you as their "artillery spotter", while using the latest in digital comm technology to give them immediate targeting updates... The shore guns can't hit a docked BB from 1500 yards, but they can sink a moving sub in 3 salvos from 8500... over a hill, no less... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

03-31-19, 06:32 AM	#4
Jackdaw Watch Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Thors Zwillinge & Osnabrück Posts: 24 Downloads: 215 Uploads: 8	Ah yes, I forgot! While coastal artillery is actually usually built-in, often bunkered with limited field of fire we have here 360 ° mortars and these, of course, with so-called indirect fire-control-radar or possibly satellite-based? [To get the f-c-r running, take a balloon pulling up an old steel plate; because of the reflection and so on .......] The other is a problem of dangerousness. Because of the limited negative elevation on battleships, these are likely to be safe near the shore 'cause no threat (), while an approaching submarine is particularly highly dangerous to near-shore infantry & Co.: (see 2:35 ...) It reminds me that I need to see the movie again; Already for radio operator Hornsby ...

03-30-19, 10:03 AM	#2
Jackdaw Watch Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Thors Zwillinge & Osnabrück Posts: 24 Downloads: 215 Uploads: 8	That's not really a problem for me. Extensive landing operations are not my thing. The shore batteries are certainly dangerous enough for submarines. Would be worth improving, however, that these guns basically have a field of fire of 360 °? Because I wanted to know that, I had two batteries installed on a slope rising behind them. Waypoint at sea. When I came in the 180 ° behind bay, I could not see a gun, but got for "upgiving/unlearning" purposes neat firing from these two batteries. This explains the old saying: When fire falls from the sky ... Where people can find this "...confounded gun emplacement..." I don't know too. Maybe an archaeologist on Henderson Field can help?