Guerrilla Submarines Spyron Mod by Ed Howard

Onkel Neal · 03-03-19, 11:49 AM

Update: aanker passed away, and it appears Ed Howard's http://www.subsowespac.org/ website is MIA.

Anyone know how to contact Ed?

KaleunMarco · 03-03-19, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Update: aanker passed away, and it appears Ed Howard's http://www.subsowespac.org/ website is MIA.

Anyone know how to contact Ed?

yes.
i emailed Ed not long ago, expressing my condolences at his loss of a friend. i also asked him about his mega-mod and the lack of a website. he replied that he expected to have a replacement website soon and that he would let me know when it was up and working.

mb

propbeanie · 03-03-19, 12:52 PM

Thanks for that KaleunMarco. Do you know if he is going to be able to get some of his research findings re-posted, along with the mods he had, for both SH1 & SH4? Thanks

Onkel Neal · 03-03-19, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

yes.
i emailed Ed not long ago, expressing my condolences at his loss of a friend. i also asked him about his mega-mod and the lack of a website. he replied that he expected to have a replacement website soon and that he would let me know when it was up and working.

mb

Please keep me posted. I hate seeing good content lost for all time.
Neal

KaleunMarco · 03-03-19, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Please keep me posted. I hate seeing good content lost for all time.
Neal

i have a copy of spyron but i do not have cloud space to store it and make it available to others.
yes, i will keep you posted when ed replies.

propbeanie · 03-03-19, 07:05 PM

Ed's Fine Print pdf User Agreement doesn't technically allow anyone to host and share his mod publicly...

KaleunMarco · 03-03-19, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

Ed's Fine Print pdf User Agreement doesn't technically allow anyone to host and share his mod publicly...

we'll see what happens. waiting for neal at the moment.

Rockin Robbins · 03-25-19, 08:34 PM

When we first started Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate Edition aanker put me in touch with Ed about Spyon. I asked him two things: to allow me to publish Spyron on Subsim so that it could be appreciated by the largest possible number of Silent Hunter players on the largest, most influential website. I promised that it would be done in his name with full credit to him as author.

Then I asked for his permission to adapt Spyron for use in FOTRSU, making it clear that because we added so many new ships to the game that ship references would have to be changed. All changes would be subject to his approval.

Ed turned us down flat saying that publication on any other site would be a violation of his copyright and he would never grant permission to any modders to use his property in any way.

I asked if he didn't want to provide the greatest service to the Silent Hunter community. He said he didn't care if nobody played his mod. I stopped trying to reason with him. He just doesn't seem to appreciate being appreciated. He has that right.

03-03-19, 11:49 AM	#1
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Update: aanker passed away, and it appears Ed Howard's http://www.subsowespac.org/ website is MIA. Anyone know how to contact Ed? __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

03-03-19, 12:52 PM	#3
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,106 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Thanks for that KaleunMarco. Do you know if he is going to be able to get some of his research findings re-posted, along with the mods he had, for both SH1 & SH4? Thanks __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

03-03-19, 07:05 PM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,106 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Ed's Fine Print pdf User Agreement doesn't technically allow anyone to host and share his mod publicly... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

03-25-19, 08:34 PM	#8
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	When we first started Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate Edition aanker put me in touch with Ed about Spyon. I asked him two things: to allow me to publish Spyron on Subsim so that it could be appreciated by the largest possible number of Silent Hunter players on the largest, most influential website. I promised that it would be done in his name with full credit to him as author. Then I asked for his permission to adapt Spyron for use in FOTRSU, making it clear that because we added so many new ships to the game that ship references would have to be changed. All changes would be subject to his approval. Ed turned us down flat saying that publication on any other site would be a violation of his copyright and he would never grant permission to any modders to use his property in any way. I asked if he didn't want to provide the greatest service to the Silent Hunter community. He said he didn't care if nobody played his mod. I stopped trying to reason with him. He just doesn't seem to appreciate being appreciated. He has that right. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS