Your Ideal Doomsday Survival Situation/Prepper Thread

[Onkel Neal]

During our latest secret society meeting at our secret underground bunker, the Z-Team and I were discussing the pros/cons of MREs and other stored food supplies.

"MREs are 'specially engineered to last years, supply nutrition, and work in SHTF situations."

"Yeah, but they're damned expensive."

"So? MRE's can withstand parachute drops of 1200 feet."

"......"

My proposal is to keep a few large caches of food supplies that are simply cans and sealed dry food goods in a few (2~5) storage totes.



Simply fill the containers with canned food, such as
Spam.
Ready-to-eat canned meats, fruits, vegetables.
Protein or fruit bars.
Dry cereal or granola.
Peanut butter.
Dried fruit.
Canned juices.
Non-perishable pasteurized milk.
High energy foods.

Then use the food from one of the containers as everyday stores. When the container is empty, buy supplies and fill it back up, move it to the end, and start pulling supplies from the next container. This way you would use them gradually so they don't get old and keep an emergency supply at the same time. This would be way cheapers than MREs, and tastier, and you would always have a fresh supply of grub in case of hurricane, power grid failure, or alien invasion.

Don't forget to include a can opener.

[em2nought]

MREs can be found for reasonable prices occasionally. I've also got some Mountain House and Patriot Pantry freeze dried meals. My stash is only designed with a hurricane in mind at the moment. I may alter that come 2020, or I may get out of dodge. I should probably work on planting the seed of a move overseas with my mother. My mother could live like a queen overseas, and have much better doctors than she does currently too. I always imagined someone who worries about EVERYTHING so much wouldn't be so likely to live so long. I guess I could benefit from the Maduro diet if the SHTF.


Brownells is now selling 7.62x51 and 5.56x45 by the barrel. LMAO
https://www.brownells.com/ammunition...rod124685.aspx

[ikalugin]

The question is, for how long do you expect your food supply to last?

[Mr Quatro]

I like your plan to rotate the food by using it and then replacing it, but can food isn't always the best choice, especially if the are not lined (Campbell Soup is not a lined can) plus the dented cans are never safe.

Your storage plan is for short term ... long term storage like beans, rice, oats etc need to be stored in double barrels and never on a concrete floor. Why double lined? Rats will eat through the first layer, but give up when faced with a second layer.

https://thesurvivalmom.com/the-top-1...-to-not-store/

Foods to not store, long-term
1. Any canned vegetable or fruit that you do not like

2. Tuna
I know that canned tuna is a staple in many food pantries. However, I’ve discovered that after a couple of years, canned tuna becomes mushy.

3. Flour
As flour ages, it can develop a stale, rancid smell. Additionally, it likely contains the microscopic eggs of flour weevils, which will hatch at some point.

4. Saltine crackers
Just for fun, take a sleeve of saltine crackers out of the box and set them aside, at room temperature, for 3 or 4 months. You’ll never get over the stench of rancid saltines!

5. Graham crackers
I didn’t think our family favorite, graham crackers, could go bad, but they do go rancid with time.

6. Breakfast cereals
These are not packaged for long-term storage, likely contain GMO ingredients, and probably contain a lot of additives

7. Canned tomato products
Personally, I have always stored a number of canned tomatoes, tomato sauce, and tomato paste, but then, we use those products often in our meals.

8. Home-dehydrated foods
Again, these aren’t bad, but for long-term storage, they won’t last nearly as long, mold-free, as commercially dehydrated foods.

9. Brown sugar
There really is no need to store brown sugar if you have granulated sugar and molasses on hand. Molasses has an extremely long shelf life, as does sugar

10. Bottled salad dressing
When a bottle of Kraft ranch salad dressing is the same color as Thousand Island, you know something went very, very wrong on your pantry shelf!


again your plan to rotate food you eat regularly seems like a good plan.

Don't forget to purchase those big number ten size of nuts (Costco has them) you can buy one every month for sure, but grown men have been known to cry when they run out of them up in Idaho in the winter months,

[Red October1984]

MRE's are great unless you have to live on a steady diet of them. After a while they all start to taste the same with the exception of Chicken Pesto Pasta.

[Onkel Neal]

Moving all the Wuhan virus posts to its own thread.

[blackswan40]

NHS Public Health England what to do if someone sneezes in your household

[Mr Quatro]

Two years later I needed my own advice: 12-16-2018 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

I like your plan to rotate the food by using it and then replacing it, but can food isn't always the best choice, especially if the are not lined (Campbell Soup is not a lined can) plus the dented cans are never safe.

Your storage plan is for short term ... long term storage like beans, rice, oats etc need to be stored in double barrels and never on a concrete floor. Why double lined? Rats will eat through the first layer, but give up when faced with a second layer.

https://thesurvivalmom.com/the-top-1...-to-not-store/

Foods to not store, long-term
1. Any canned vegetable or fruit that you do not like

2. Tuna
I know that canned tuna is a staple in many food pantries. However, I’ve discovered that after a couple of years, canned tuna becomes mushy.

3. Flour
As flour ages, it can develop a stale, rancid smell. Additionally, it likely contains the microscopic eggs of flour weevils, which will hatch at some point.

4. Saltine crackers
Just for fun, take a sleeve of saltine crackers out of the box and set them aside, at room temperature, for 3 or 4 months. You’ll never get over the stench of rancid saltines!

5. Graham crackers
I didn’t think our family favorite, graham crackers, could go bad, but they do go rancid with time.

6. Breakfast cereals
These are not packaged for long-term storage, likely contain GMO ingredients, and probably contain a lot of additives

7. Canned tomato products
Personally, I have always stored a number of canned tomatoes, tomato sauce, and tomato paste, but then, we use those products often in our meals.

8. Home-dehydrated foods
Again, these aren’t bad, but for long-term storage, they won’t last nearly as long, mold-free, as commercially dehydrated foods.

9. Brown sugar
There really is no need to store brown sugar if you have granulated sugar and molasses on hand. Molasses has an extremely long shelf life, as does sugar

10. Bottled salad dressing
When a bottle of Kraft ranch salad dressing is the same color as Thousand Island, you know something went very, very wrong on your pantry shelf!


again your plan to rotate food you eat regularly seems like a good plan.

Don't forget to purchase those big number ten size of nuts (Costco has them) you can buy one every month for sure, but grown men have been known to cry when they run out of them up in Idaho in the winter months,

[Onkel Neal]

You needed it? Why'd you need it? What's going on over there?

[Mr Quatro]

I'm tired of buying bottled water

Now that it is even harder to purchase at local stores and will be almost impossible to find in a panic situation.

I've decided to purchase a water filter pitcher to filter my local water from the faucet, which I would not even make coffee with.

I just saw an ad on TV for Zero Water filtered pitchers, but after checking it out seems the filters are expensive and only last two and half weeks.

So I then went to Amazon and found this one, plus you only need to replace the filters every 6 months :

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079DDN98K...2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

Ultra Max with 1 Longlast Filter, Extra Large 18 Cup, Black
by Brita

4.5 out of 5 stars 2,484 ratings

for "brita extra large 18 cup filtered water dispenser"

Price:$44.96 & FREE Shipping

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Two years later I needed my own advice: 12-16-2018 03:34 PM

Wut? No TP and hand sanitizer?

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

During our latest secret society meeting at our secret underground bunker, the Z-Team and I were discussing the pros/cons of MREs and other stored food supplies.

"MREs are 'specially engineered to last years, supply nutrition, and work in SHTF situations."

"Yeah, but they're damned expensive."

"So? MRE's can withstand parachute drops of 1200 feet."

"......"

My proposal is to keep a few large caches of food supplies that are simply cans and sealed dry food goods in a few (2~5) storage totes.



Simply fill the containers with canned food, such as
Spam.
Ready-to-eat canned meats, fruits, vegetables.
Protein or fruit bars.
Dry cereal or granola.
Peanut butter.
Dried fruit.
Canned juices.
Non-perishable pasteurized milk.
High energy foods.

Then use the food from one of the containers as everyday stores. When the container is empty, buy supplies and fill it back up, move it to the end, and start pulling supplies from the next container. This way you would use them gradually so they don't get old and keep an emergency supply at the same time. This would be way cheapers than MREs, and tastier, and you would always have a fresh supply of grub in case of hurricane, power grid failure, or alien invasion.

Don't forget to include a can opener.

That's a lot of fancy food...Hard tack FTW, keeps forever.

[Onkel Neal]

How much hard tack do you have on hand right now?

[Aktungbby]

/\ HARDTACK!was a staple of my civil-war re-enacting existance. 1 cup sugar, 3 cups flour, 4" squares, properly decorated with 9 skewer holes... bake at 400 degrees for 20 minutes. 10 in the haversack with wife's fabulous three bean stew in a castiron iron pot-enough for the squad- was enough for a long weekend backcountry engagement!

[Rockstar]

Red beans and rice with peppers, spices and sausage goes a long way. I got lots of dry beans (great northern, red, and navy beans), rice and grains. Still canning chuck roast, beef stew, chicken soup, asparagus, celery, beans, carrots, oh and my favorite pickled beets baby! One plus to canning is you dont have to go to a crowded grocery store often. Just find a less traveled farmers market and pick up a crap ton of fresh fruit and veggies to preserve.

Get several pounds of your favorite flour and a bread maker, or not, and make your own bread instead going every week to the store.