Silent Hunter 4 on Wine, No sound Effects?

[Caption Ranker]

I think lutris switched me over to a beta version of wine to run Skyrim. I told the runner in lutris to run staging 3.12 instead and I'm back to being able to play the game but with no sound effects.

I ran the game with the 1.9.21 version of wine that was the last version to get a platinum rating on wine HQ and it also ran but with the same issue.

There must be something I do not fundamentally understand about the audio drivers on my computer. Or maybe how wine interacts with them...

[propbeanie]

Don't forget the game's settings also though... That "3D Sound Channels" thingie, messes with my computer...

[BarracudaUAK]

I got propbeanie's message....

Originally Posted by propbeanie

...BarracudaUAK and Rockin Robbins are two big Linux users here, let's see if we can get their attention...

Who you callin' "BIG"?



On to buisiness...


I can say that I'm running WINE 3.13 staging (Fedora 28) and I have sound.
(It has been working fine for the last several versions.)
I just tried both a 64bit and a 32bit (w/DX9 and Dotnet 2.0), and both are working flawlessly.

Based on a quick perusal of the thread, I can see a few possibilites...

Originally Posted by Caption Ranker

Just an inbuilt sound card, although I got a USB dongle to headphones.
...

Are you using the headphones when you play?
Do they work for other things with sound in Linux?

If not, can you plug in a set of speakers/headphones to the sound card...

NOTE: As I was clarifying my post, I had the thought, Mint could be "seeing" the headphones as a separate sound device.
Which desktop are you running? (Cinimmon? MATE?)

Fedora "sees" my RX 580's built-in sound (for HDMI) and my motherboards sound card separately, and I can switch them "on the fly".

Can you right-click on the Sound/Speaker icon on (what windows calls) the System Tray?
Should pop-up a small menu:
KDE has "Configure Audio Volume" then I can choose the default in the window that pops up under the "Audio Volume/Devices" tab.
Cinimmon has "Output Device", Then it list the Sound options when you click on the drop down menu.
MATE has "Sound Preferences", in the box under the hardware tab it list all devices, and under the "Output" tab, you can select your prefered device...


END NOTE.

Originally Posted by Caption Ranker

I think lutris switched me ...

I haven't used 'Lutris', or 'Play on Linux' so I'm unfamiliar with the specifics, but based on what I've read...
It allows multiple different versions of WINE, and then runs the program through those.

There may be a disconnect somewhere in there, since WINE isn't running from the default location on the system.
The System may not be allowing WINE access to the sound...
OR could be a bug in the version of Lutris that you have.


I'm not sure about this, but I thought I would mention the possibility...

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BTW, which Kernel version are you using?
At the terminal: uname -r


Barracuda

P.S. I'm one of those that is going to ask you some questions that you might have to use the terminal to answer...

I from the DOS era, so command line is "home" for me!

[Caption Ranker]

Yeah I'm running Mint 19 with the Cinnamon desktop. I should have mentioned that I switched from my headphones, to my speakers and had the same issue.

Yeah, lutris is great, it's really making the transition to Linux much easier. It's basically a better version of play on linux, making set up of wine games a one click process in most cases.

I can run off my systems version of wine with Lutris. I just did so and used wine tricks to switch between the different audio divers Alias, OSS, Plus audio to no effect.

It's sounding more and more like there is something wrong with my version on linux mint 19 and how it is handling audio. I believe I should be able to install another version of Linux alongside my current OS fairly easy if I remember. I think that is my next step in determining what's wrong here.


Edit: Also my sound works fine in everything else, I had an issue with Skyrim but somehow that fixed itself by just switching between wine versions with lutris.


Edit: Did you install DX 9? I'm trying to do anything but install DX9.

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by BarracudaUAK

I got propbeanie's message....

Who you callin' "BIG"?
...

Why, me of course, big on Linux, that is!...

Just a "refresher" for my memory, but check out:

Rockin Robbin's Let's Install Linux on Moonlight's Spare Computer!

and

BarracudaUAK's WINE or How to run your Windows game on Linux


Of particular note here is RR's post #27 on page 2 wherein DirectX v9.0c and the WindowsMedia 9 Codecs are part of the game install at about the 55 second mark of his video...

there might be updates to the Linux stuff though...

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[BarracudaUAK]

I had a system freeze while typing, so this will be short and to the point, appologies ahead of time...


Typos possible too....

>> NOTE: Freeze again... somethings up, booted with older kernel, hopefully it holds this time!
I had similar trouble, and it wasn't WINE, it was the Video drivers, it was finally fixed with a Kernel update... So that may very well be the problem you are having...
Still, I'll leave the entirety of my post here so you can see my wandering and rambling before coming to this conclusion...


END NOTE <<

Originally Posted by Caption Ranker

Yeah I'm running Mint 19 with the Cinnamon desktop. I should have mentioned that I switched from my headphones, to my speakers and had the same issue.
...

Ok, that removes "wrong device" as a possible issue.
Is the output "muted"? (I've done that before.)

Originally Posted by Caption Ranker

...
Yeah, lutris is great, it's really making the transition to Linux much easier. It's basically a better version of play on linux, making set up of wine games a one click process in most cases.

I can run off my systems version of wine with Lutris. I just did so and used wine tricks to switch between the different audio divers Alias, OSS, Plus audio to no effect.
...

> I was typing this section when it froze, so this is the short version. <

Aplication Launcher ("start menu"), under WINE:
WINE Configuration. (or terminal "winecfg"), you can select the output device.

If the rest of the system is working with one of them, then sticking with that while you try to troubleshoot the issue is probably best.

Originally Posted by Caption Ranker

...
It's sounding more and more like there is something wrong with my version on linux mint 19 and how it is handling audio. I believe I should be able to install another version of Linux alongside my current OS fairly easy if I remember. I think that is my next step in determining what's wrong here.
...

Yes you can, you need an empty partition to put the System on.
If you setup a seperate "Home" partition (a partition mounted at /home) for MINT...
THEN...
EITHER:
A: Put the 2nd Linux distro's /home on the "system" partition. That is, don't setup a separate /home partition when you install it.

B: Use a different Desktop for the 2nd Linux Distro.
OR
C: Use a different USERNAME.

OTHERWISE:
The Settings files might over-write each other if it is the same desktop (Cinimmon/MATE/KDE/etc.) if on the same partition.


If you go with option "A" or "C", you will need to reinstall (or copy over) SH4.

>>> CAN CLARIFY THIS IF NEED BE <<<

(I really need to do a basic run-down on how this works, with pics and all.)

Originally Posted by Caption Ranker

...
Edit: Also my sound works fine in everything else, I had an issue with Skyrim but somehow that fixed itself by just switching between wine versions with lutris.
...

I've had issues that are fixed with a WINE update.
But if the problem persist, then it's probably not WINE.

Originally Posted by Caption Ranker

...
Edit: Did you install DX 9? I'm trying to do anything but install DX9.

Only my 32bit prefix has DX9 and Dotnet 2.0, others have Dotnet 4/4.5/4.6/etc as required by mod tools/editors.


My default 64bit. is "clean" unless a game has installed something on its "first run".

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Why, me of course, big on Linux, that is!...

Just a "refresher" for my memory, but check out:

Rockin Robbin's Let's Install Linux on Moonlight's Spare Computer!
and
BarracudaUAK's WINE or How to run your Windows game on Linux


Of particular note here is RR's post #27 on page 2 wherein DirectX v9.0c and the WindowsMedia 9 Codecs are part of the game install at about the 55 second mark of his video...

there might be updates to the Linux stuff though...

My WINE thread only covers the basics, it doesn't go into that much detail.


I did plan on covering the install of tools like S3D, since the install isn't straight forward.
It's not hard, just not as easy as point and click.