New copyright for internet content

[Dowly]

Sure, let's just stop reading news and make ourselves even more ignorant than we already are.
What people need to do instead of stop reading online newspapers is to regain their critical thinking skills.

[Skybird]

Don't read newspapers, and be uninformed. Read newspapers, and be misinformed.


Quality has gone down the drain many, many years ago already anyway. Its absolutely no loss not to read newspapers anymore. I would even say its a win in life quality, and a benefit to your health as well.



With TV its even much worse. You cant pratcially differ anymore between TV broadcasters, and political interest groups. The name for that is simple: propaganda.


Those who mess with ylour life and claim it is for the bettgering of the world, in the end all have one thing in common: they want to have control over you and want you to obey their demands. Of course, you get only educated for your own better.



Didn't find the ignore-button?

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Don't read newspapers, and be uninformed. Read newspapers, and be misinformed.

Haha, Oh wow, that was so funny and so true.

[Rockstar]

I remember not too long ago somebody brought up that NATO expansion was a broken promise to Russia. Several years ago I read an interview of Mikhail Gorbachev where he states no such things were spoken of when they pulled out of East Germany. I recently tried to find the interview again on Google to no avail all I found was pro Russia stories of broken promises by NATO

I used Duck Duck Go and lo and behold I found Gorbachev's interview.

Not saying one search engine is better than the other but it seems to me Google can sure manipulate its results.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Not saying one search engine is better than the other but it seems to me Google can sure manipulate its results.

That is one of the advantages they have and can abuse whilst being the number one in their field.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Don't read newspapers, and be uninformed. Read newspapers, and be misinformed.

Here in comes the critical thinking skill.


We as humans have more information available to use with a push of a few buttons than have been available to any single person in the history of the world. Use it.

[Skybird]

Correct (="critical") processing of corrupted information necessarily must lead to corrupted results.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Correct (="critical") processing of corrupted information necessarily must lead to corrupted results.

Bollocks.

There are four lights.

[mapuc]

To be honest I don't give much for this "critical thinking skills"

Because it all depend on the persons belief.

Let say I don't like a certain politicians
In my use of this "critical thinking skills"

I would probably end up with what my belief are/is.

Take a look at some of our own political discussion and some of our discussion about Global warming.

(sorry for this little detour)

Markus

[Catfish]

so true.. most live in their own world of 'information', or personal information bubble. They have an opinion and click away everything they do not like, and Google and Facebook support that!
Tailored advertisements and information, to make people even more dumb..

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by mapuc

To be honest I don't give much for this "critical thinking skills"

Because it all depend on the persons belief.

I respectfully suggest that you may not understand what critical thinking is.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Bollocks.

No, just pointing out the obvious (that you reject).

And beyond the how-to of processing, and the quality of its entered object, I even do not mention the third factor that needs to be seen here: the processor himself. Mapuc reflected a bit about it.

The eye cant watch itself. Ylou cannot find final truths about the system you are embedded in as long as you are embedded in thats ystem and its context and do not step beyond, and outside of it.

You can scan as many newspapers of different kinds as you want - your choice already influence the scanning result, the included claims in their articles - and the not included info/claim/statement in their articles as well! - decide the range of possible conclusions/results of your "critical thinking".

And if your only information sources are forged informaiton, propaganda, then you can think as hard as you want, you nevertheless do not get the real picture of the world and its events.

"A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy crazier." - H.L. Mencken.

[Eichhörnchen]

I'm pleased to reflect that I've neither read any newspapers nor watched TV for many years now; I get all my news about the world from BBC Radio.

The issue about paying fees, including even linking to stuff, well that's completely nightmarish. If the measures suggested here were enacted then it would cripple the internet... interpretation of intellectual copyright is enough of a minefield already for individuals and a goldmine for lawyers.

It was a basic foolish mistake on his part, but a guy recently got billed for over £700 for using a tiny photo on his website which belonged to somebody else (I heard this on the BBC News!) Just imagine the worry that these measures would cause... people would just stop using the web

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Here in comes the critical thinking skill.


We as humans have more information available to use with a push of a few buttons than have been available to any single person in the history of the world. Use it.

This is what I find the most disturbing. We have access that no previous generation could ever dream of. If we have a question about a law, we can easily pull the text of the law, if we have a question about a court decision, we can pull the slip reports. It only takes a few moments, but it seems that even with this unprecedented access, people are still relying on other people to interpret.

There is an old saying that I just made up: You can lead a person to data, but you can't make them think.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Platapus

This is what I find the most disturbing. We have access that no previous generation could ever dream of. If we have a question about a law, we can easily pull the text of the law, if we have a question about a court decision, we can pull the slip reports. It only takes a few moments, but it seems that even with this unprecedented access, people are still relying on other people to interpret.

There is an old saying that I just made up: You can lead a person to data, but you can't make them think.

The quality of data is what is at question here. I woudl ask that question even - and especially - in regard to scientific raw data and the way and method it was won.