Can Catholic crosses keep the far right at bay in multicultural Bavaria?

Skybird · 06-03-18, 05:29 AM

Much of that is populism by Söder. However, the Bavarians are a people with much stronger identity feelings than most other regional German populations. The past years of Merkels' mass migration into Germany have not gone by without leaving traces. A pendulum swings both ways, it swung "there", now it swings "back", in all of Europe.

It will become much worse when the still running economic boom in Germany will weaken and stall and the burden of the net migration into the social systems will make themselves felt - the signs for that already are written on the wall.

Myself, I want a strict separation of state and religion inn Germany. Germany neither is nor was a secular state. The state actively assists the churches and arranges financial lucrative special priviliges for them. As a result the German dioceses are the richest in the world. This must come to an end. All religions, all, have to be "ordinary actors" before the law like any private citizen and shall be prevented from benefitting from priviliges and financial aid by public funds. This includes a total and strict banning of genital mutilations of boys and girls under the age of consent (18 or better 21), since that is a violation of laws about bodily harm and assaulting, and a ban on Halal slaughtering and Schächten, since both are violations of the protection of animal act. No parallel justice systems for and run by nobody. Perdiod.

Heck, in Germany the state even collects mandatory church taxes as if it still were the medieval!

Germany is NOT a secular state, and never was.

Leave religion where it belongs: in the private sphere, and only tolerated under the precondition that it fully complies, without exception, with the states' public, private and penalty laws (we have no common law system in Germany like in the Anglosaxon tradition). Thats true for Christians. Thats true for Jews. Thats true for Muhammeddans. Thats true for everybody else.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,657 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Much of that is populism by Söder. However, the Bavarians are a people with much stronger identity feelings than most other regional German populations. The past years of Merkels' mass migration into Germany have not gone by without leaving traces. A pendulum swings both ways, it swung "there", now it swings "back", in all of Europe. It will become much worse when the still running economic boom in Germany will weaken and stall and the burden of the net migration into the social systems will make themselves felt - the signs for that already are written on the wall. Myself, I want a strict separation of state and religion inn Germany. Germany neither is nor was a secular state. The state actively assists the churches and arranges financial lucrative special priviliges for them. As a result the German dioceses are the richest in the world. This must come to an end. All religions, all, have to be "ordinary actors" before the law like any private citizen and shall be prevented from benefitting from priviliges and financial aid by public funds. This includes a total and strict banning of genital mutilations of boys and girls under the age of consent (18 or better 21), since that is a violation of laws about bodily harm and assaulting, and a ban on Halal slaughtering and Schächten, since both are violations of the protection of animal act. No parallel justice systems for and run by nobody. Perdiod. Heck, in Germany the state even collects mandatory church taxes as if it still were the medieval! Germany is NOT a secular state, and never was. Leave religion where it belongs: in the private sphere, and only tolerated under the precondition that it fully complies, without exception, with the states' public, private and penalty laws (we have no common law system in Germany like in the Anglosaxon tradition). Thats true for Christians. Thats true for Jews. Thats true for Muhammeddans. Thats true for everybody else. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 06-03-18 at 05:46 AM.