[REL] Real ASW Mod

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Originally Posted by padi

The bug is that due to an error in the mission editor the ships are driving with 1939 equipment for the whole war...

Really?

That's a lame bug. GWX has represented a standard and the state-of-art of SHIII modding for quite a long time. I am surprised that after all these years no one attempted to fix that error. Do you have any idea on its causes?

Originally Posted by padi

The mod isn't compatible with other mods because I had to change the .eqp-file of any included ship, so the new DCs really work.

That's true. Editing all those eqp files one by one can be a PITA. Not to mention the fact that some ASW vessels might need their equipment nodes moved or new ones added

[padi]

Originally Posted by gap

Really? [emoji5]



That's a lame bug. GWX has represented a standard and the state-of-art of SHIII modding for quite a long time. I am surprised that after all these years no one attempted to fix that error. Do you have any idea on its causes?

In LSH and Ccom the Date-Bug is corrected. I don't know, if that's the case for WAC, but I'm sure that it isn't corrected in GWX...
The cause is a error in the mission editor, you have to fix it manually in the files.

Originally Posted by gap

That's true. Editing all those eqp files one by one can be a PITA. Not to mention the fact that some ASW vessels might need their equipment nodes moved or new ones added

Thats right, for example the Fletcher need to have two more K-Guns added...

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Originally Posted by padi

In LSH and Ccom the Date-Bug is corrected. I don't know, if that's the case for WAC, but I'm sure that it isn't corrected in GWX...
The cause is a error in the mission editor, you have to fix it manually in the files.

I am not 100% sure but now that you make me to think about it, I might know what causes the problem and, if I am correct, the same issue might apply to SH5 too.

I am going by memory here: there is a series of parameters applying to each unit in campaign (i.e. camoufflage, equipment and sensors) whose value can be set to "early", "mid" and "late" within Mission Editor. In practice, these parameters overseed start/end dates in units' .cfg, .eqp and .sns files and they make the game to look for the 1st, 2nd or 3rd item in the sequence of upgrades applying to the same node/unit, regardless of date settings of that item. If I rememeber correctly, "early", "mid" and "late" visible in ME, translate to values of 0, 1 and 2 in the campaign/mission files, as we see them in notepad.

I have no proof of what I am going to say, but I think that for making date settings to be applied as supposed, those numbers must be set to -1. This is something that must be done manually, as ME doesn't allow this kind of setting.

Originally Posted by padi

Thats right, for example the Fletcher need to have two more K-Guns added...

[Hebe Vollmaus]

Originally Posted by gap

I am not 100% sure but now that you make me to think about it, I might know what causes the problem and, if I am correct, the same issue might apply to SH5 too.

I am going by memory here: there is a series of parameters applying to each unit in campaign (i.e. camoufflage, equipment and sensors) whose value can be set to "early", "mid" and "late" within Mission Editor. In practice, these parameters overseed start/end dates in units' .cfg, .eqp and .sns files and they make the game to look for the 1st, 2nd or 3rd item in the sequence of upgrades applying to the same node/unit, regardless of date settings of that item. If I rememeber correctly, "early", "mid" and "late" visible in ME, translate to values of 0, 1 and 2 in the campaign/mission files, as we see them in notepad.

I have no proof of what I am going to say, but I think that for making date settings to be applied as supposed, those numbers must be set to -1. This is something that must be done manually, as ME doesn't allow this kind of setting.

I am not shure of what bug from the MissionEditor ME you guys talking. Also i cannot find an equivalent of "early", "mid" and "late" in ME. But all "Big Modes" and even unmodified SH3 have Quirks (i wil not call them Errors) in the Campaigne_RND.mis as an failure of the ME, or maybe by intention.

In the past i was not able to see red rwr-lines (even if i doubled them) from an rwr-group on the NavigationMap with zoom 25 or greater, when only one ship in the group has a wrong CfgDate. Above i called this also intention, never will i forget these horrible moments came out of TC and WO tells something like "We are under attack, Sir", and a Destroyer around 1km behind me.

So for my own installation i have created a Tool wich is able to copy all GameEntryDate= to CfgDate= (in .RndUnit only) and these shocking moments are gone.

If this is not the Bug you guys talking about, please talk a bit more.

Greetings.

[Edit]
Have found old threads.
and 2 links in post 7 about "Cfg-Bug".
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show....php?p=2084630
Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Hebe Vollmaus

[Edit]
Have found old threads.
and 2 links in post 7 about "Cfg-Bug".
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show....php?p=2084630
Thanks.

Thank you Hebe, I had missed your edit. That should discard any compatibility issue between padi's mod and GWX

Originally Posted by Hebe Vollmaus

I am not shure of what bug from the MissionEditor ME you guys talking. Also i cannot find an equivalent of "early", "mid" and "late" in ME.

You are right: I have just checked SHIII campaign files and, unlike SH5, there is no unit equipment, sensor nor camouflage entries there. So what I wrote yesterday about Mission Editor only applies to SH5, and maybe SH4... I tend to make a lot of confusion between the three games

Originally Posted by Hebe Vollmaus

In the past i was not able to see red rwr-lines (even if i doubled them) from an rwr-group on the NavigationMap with zoom 25 or greater, when only one ship in the group has a wrong CfgDate.

I don't quite get you here: what is an "rwr-group"? To me and in the context of WWII, RWR only has two meanings: "Radar Warning Receiver" and "Russian War Relief", but neither of them seems to apply to your sentence

[Hebe Vollmaus]

Originally Posted by gap

I don't quite get you here: what is an "rwr-group"? To me and in the context of WWII, RWR only has two meanings: "Radar Warning Receiver" and "Russian War Relief", but neither of them seems to apply to your sentence

Oh, sorry about that. rwr-group was false, it shoult has to be RND-Group.
What i mean is an [Goup X] of Warships in Campaigne_RND.mis with one ship which have CfgDate less then GameEntryDate.
Normaly, on Navigation-Map you get RWR Radar Warning Receiver lines from the whole group regardless of the zoom. But in this special case on zoom 25km and up i was not able see these lines.

Greetings.

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Originally Posted by Hebe Vollmaus

Oh, sorry about that. rwr-group was false, it shoult has to be RND-Group.
What i mean is an [Goup X] of Warships in Campaigne_RND.mis with one ship which have CfgDate less then GameEntryDate.
Normaly, on Navigation-Map you get RWR Radar Warning Receiver lines from the whole group regardless of the zoom. But in this special case on zoom 25km and up i was not able see these lines.

Greetings.

Okay thanks, your explaination is totally clear now

[HanSolo78]

Originally Posted by padi

In LSH and Ccom the Date-Bug is corrected. I don't know, if that's the case for WAC, but I'm sure that it isn't corrected in GWX...
The cause is a error in the mission editor, you have to fix it manually in the files.

As I read only some specific units have these problems... WAC5.0 also uses almost only generic units in the random campaign layer.
So most of the units should not have the problem.

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Originally Posted by HanSolo78

As I read only some specific units have these problems... WAC5.0 also uses almost only generic units in the random campaign layer.
So most of the units should not have the problem.

Hi HanSolo, do you know what is causing the problem?