The Silent Hunter IV (Pacific Campaign) WISH-LIST - Page 12

DeepSix · 05-22-06, 07:06 PM

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Joseph Fitz-Patrick made 17 patrols (according to Blair) but I'm not sure how many of those were as skipper (not all of them, I'm sure).

Fitz-Patrick was in command (USS Paddle) for only 3 of his 17 patrols.
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Ah, thank you. I couldn't remember the exact number.

I think "realistic relief" is a great idea, but I also think it would please more people to have it as a mod rather than as a stock element. Casual players may not go for it if it's a stock feature, while the realism junkies (who are the most likely to use mods on a regular basis, IMO) will love it.

slow_n_ez · 05-23-06, 10:38 AM

My only wish is ......................

Out of box game that don't need a patch after 2 weeks of being released ......

Out of box game that don't need 5 thousand mods in order to make it look 'interesting' or 'real'

Out of box game that I don't need to spend 500 us dollars to upgrade my computer in order to play it ..........

Threadfin · 05-23-06, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSix

I think the idea of limiting the number of patrols for a career to a realistic amount is entirely a good one, but my two cents would be to incorporate it via a mod rather than have it built into the stock game without any player control over it. I think the average or first-time player would not like to have limits.

Good points DS, although this realistic career stuff could just be an option.

George S, great post, agree on all of your points.

DeepSix · 05-23-06, 11:37 AM

I just noticed that I repeated myself in that last post. Sorry about that.

Must be getting senile.

Kapitan_Phillips · 05-23-06, 11:59 AM

Firstly, I think a Pacific theatre submarine game has been on the cards ever since the (frankly astounding) Pacific Aces for SH2.

But to make this game rock the proverbial socks, I think Ubisoft should add-

'A More Human Crew' - Okay, so SH3 added in some pretty good models of your U-Boats crew, but it would be nice to have them moving around on your submarine, actually looking like they're doing something. For example, your ChEng could, in times of transit walk around the control room, cleaning gauges, checking valves and pumps. Whilst your Navigator uses the...star..doohickey.. to recompute your current position. I feel this would add a massive amount of atmosphere to the game - make your crew more human and players will take the game more and more seriously. (Not that no-one does now, of course, manual TDCers. ;D )

Random System Failiures - I noticed this in PA - occasionally my engines would get damaged, due to mechanical problems. This could be greatly expanded upon, perhaps to include individual parts of the ship being faulty, such as bearing shelves or compasses

The coveted 'Free Roam' - I totally agree with this one. As a commander, you should be able to inspect every nook and cranny of your ship, making sure the crew is working efficiently, the systems are functioning correctly, and any low priority items for repair or adjustment (maybe periscope aligments and so forth)

More control in port - This is a rather childish little want, but I think it'd be cool and immersive if you could control what gets loaded onto your submarine in terms of food, fuel, weapons and luxuries. Certain luxuries such as chocolate and extra gramophone records can boost morale, whereas extra weapons boosts the combat value of your ship, at the expense of space (and morale as a result)

In a summary, keep the graphics more or less the same (with a few glitches removed) and concentrate on immersion and realism. You cant go far wrong with that, if SH3 is any indication as to what the dev team is capable of.

05-23-06, 12:45 PM

I would like to see things accurately placed. SHIII has the Observation Periscope at the wrong end of the control room, as well as no actual helmsman, who should be seated at a wheel at the front of the control room (behind the chief and at a right angle to the two planesmen).

Just little things, but this is the 'wish list'.

Red Devil · 05-31-06, 01:54 AM

Wish list eh?

1. Ability to go right through whole of WW2
2. Ability to, and missions for, shelling shore targets
3. Return of the rescue missions (SH1)
4. A lot of subs could and did go "below crush depth" but SH2 (PA) refuses to allow this, would like to see it in SH4. U boats could go VERY deep, was it their superior build?
5. Superior graphics are obvious but superior sound too and beta tested to destruction BEFORE release.

Drebbel · 05-31-06, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil

and beta tested to destruction BEFORE release.

Even when Beta Testing the latest patch for SHIV many problems where reported. But lack of fund was the reason they where not fixed. That is the main reason I basically stopped playing SHIV, even the sonar is broken :-(

So please reserve enough funds to fix problems discovered in prerelease-beta and patch-beta testing !

CCIP · 05-31-06, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Drebbel

Even when Beta Testing the latest patch for SHIV many problems where reported. But lack of fund was the reason they where not fixed. That is the main reason I basically stopped playing SHIV, even the sonar is broken :-(
!

I hope you meant SHIII

Drebbel · 05-31-06, 02:45 AM

Yep, SHIII

05-31-06, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil

4. A lot of subs could and did go "below crush depth" but SH2 (PA) refuses to allow this, would like to see it in SH4. U boats could go VERY deep, was it their superior build?

Some u-boats in extreme situations ended up going as deep as 300 meters (close to 1000 feet). So did some U.S. submarines. I don't thing the building was that much different.

DeepSix · 05-31-06, 05:45 PM

Anybody else besides me think seeing phosphorescence in the water would be really cool?

Tronics · 06-01-06, 10:41 AM

Just some thoughts from a long time and rather complatent SH3 player.

I'd prefer to see more life in the submarine, as has been stated before.

But also I want to have the effects of crew be ovbiously apparent. For example, I want to be able to delegate duties to other officers, such as crew management. I'm rather tired of waking up and finding the boat dead in the water for 4 hours as everyone simply decided to stop working. This dosen't happen, theres crew rotations, the captain's job is to manage the property of the navy (boat), not to babysit the crew. Thats the petty officers job

Communication is a must as well, as is opening up the rest of the boat.

But I'd like a little more level of immersion, I'd like a variable skill set of officers, noone is perfect at everything, so is having a preset slider bar system regarding ship duties randomly generated off of the 'birth' of the officer a bad thing?

Sure medals and experience in a compartment can improve these, and should. Also I believe that the officer promotion should be standard as it is provided via SHcommander.

If I had a rather extremely skilled and highly decotared officer it makes since that either BDU or the USN grant him a boat commission. What would be more immersive to be sailing on your last patrols before retirement, called into a wolfpack, and then notice that the tailing u-boat is in fact your former IWO?

Drebbel · 06-01-06, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by slow_n_ez

My only wish is ......................

Out of box game that don't need a patch after 2 weeks of being released ......

Ah, so you want a game that has been tested on thousends of different computer systems and combinations by hundreds of people. Better prepare for a release date that is pushed forward for atleast 6 months, and then still it will not be bug free,

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Out of box game that don't need 5 thousand mods in order to make it look 'interesting' or 'real'

Ah, so you want an unmoddable game. When a game is modable the modders always will be able to make certain parts of the game more interesting or better.

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Out of box game that I don't need to spend 500 us dollars to upgrade my computer in order to play it

Ah, so you want outdated graphics, but you want it to look real.

Maybe you should go back to Silent Service 1, that game has next to none mods, runs smooth and has few known bugs, and you only have to downgrade your computer or run DosBox.

:p

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Originally Posted by DeepSix

Anybody else besides me think seeing phosphorescence in the water would be really cool?

Yep, would sure be cool. The more graphics and options the better.

CannonFodder · 06-02-06, 09:58 AM

I thought SH3 was fantastic, esp after some of the great mods that were later developed. For SH4 the biggest thing I could wish for would be a improvement and integration of time compression and crew management. Setting daily watches without guys falling asleep at the controls is a must! I would also like to see when you are in time compression above a number you set, ie 8X the captain, (you) are off duty and in your bunk. Your XO would be in command and follow captain's (your) standing orders. ie, avoid target "this" and "that", engage target "this" and "that" You would arrive on the command deck with the crew already getting underway to avoid or engage a contact, and not wake up to a "death screen" because you couldn't slow the time comp in time.

It only makes sense to me that if the enemy AI can currently attack and sink you before you can lift a hand to get out of time compression, that the friendly AI crew mates can be smart enough to avoid that rock, not hit that friendly freighter or crash dive when swarmed by destroyers while you are rising from your bunk rubbing the sleep out of your eyes.

Once the immediate threat is dealt with, your XO can report all happenings while you were napping.

PS new here. Nice board. Great to see this series alive and well in the community.

05-23-06, 11:37 AM	#169
DeepSix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 683 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I just noticed that I repeated myself in that last post. Sorry about that. Must be getting senile. __________________ Jack's happy days will soon be gone, To return again, oh never! For they've raised his pay five cents a day, But they've stopped his grog forever. For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, But tomorrow we'll be sober. - "Farewell to Grog"

05-23-06, 11:59 AM	#170
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	You've most likely heard it all before, but here goes.. Firstly, I think a Pacific theatre submarine game has been on the cards ever since the (frankly astounding) Pacific Aces for SH2. But to make this game rock the proverbial socks, I think Ubisoft should add- 'A More Human Crew' - Okay, so SH3 added in some pretty good models of your U-Boats crew, but it would be nice to have them moving around on your submarine, actually looking like they're doing something. For example, your ChEng could, in times of transit walk around the control room, cleaning gauges, checking valves and pumps. Whilst your Navigator uses the...star..doohickey.. to recompute your current position. I feel this would add a massive amount of atmosphere to the game - make your crew more human and players will take the game more and more seriously. (Not that no-one does now, of course, manual TDCers. ;D ) Random System Failiures - I noticed this in PA - occasionally my engines would get damaged, due to mechanical problems. This could be greatly expanded upon, perhaps to include individual parts of the ship being faulty, such as bearing shelves or compasses The coveted 'Free Roam' - I totally agree with this one. As a commander, you should be able to inspect every nook and cranny of your ship, making sure the crew is working efficiently, the systems are functioning correctly, and any low priority items for repair or adjustment (maybe periscope aligments and so forth) More control in port - This is a rather childish little want, but I think it'd be cool and immersive if you could control what gets loaded onto your submarine in terms of food, fuel, weapons and luxuries. Certain luxuries such as chocolate and extra gramophone records can boost morale, whereas extra weapons boosts the combat value of your ship, at the expense of space (and morale as a result) In a summary, keep the graphics more or less the same (with a few glitches removed) and concentrate on immersion and realism. You cant go far wrong with that, if SH3 is any indication as to what the dev team is capable of.

05-31-06, 01:54 AM	#172
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,541 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Wish list eh? 1. Ability to go right through whole of WW2 2. Ability to, and missions for, shelling shore targets 3. Return of the rescue missions (SH1) 4. A lot of subs could and did go "below crush depth" but SH2 (PA) refuses to allow this, would like to see it in SH4. U boats could go VERY deep, was it their superior build? 5. Superior graphics are obvious but superior sound too and beta tested to destruction BEFORE release. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

05-31-06, 05:45 PM	#177
DeepSix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 683 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Anybody else besides me think seeing phosphorescence in the water would be really cool? __________________ Jack's happy days will soon be gone, To return again, oh never! For they've raised his pay five cents a day, But they've stopped his grog forever. For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, But tomorrow we'll be sober. - "Farewell to Grog"

05-23-06, 10:38 AM	#167
slow_n_ez Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Astoria , Oregon Posts: 246 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My only wish is ...................... Out of box game that don't need a patch after 2 weeks of being released ...... Out of box game that don't need 5 thousand mods in order to make it look 'interesting' or 'real' Out of box game that I don't need to spend 500 us dollars to upgrade my computer in order to play it ..........

05-23-06, 12:45 PM	#171
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I would like to see things accurately placed. SHIII has the Observation Periscope at the wrong end of the control room, as well as no actual helmsman, who should be seated at a wheel at the front of the control room (behind the chief and at a right angle to the two planesmen). Just little things, but this is the 'wish list'.

05-31-06, 02:45 AM	#175
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Yep, SHIII

06-01-06, 10:41 AM	#178
Tronics A-ganger Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 78 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Just some thoughts from a long time and rather complatent SH3 player. I'd prefer to see more life in the submarine, as has been stated before. But also I want to have the effects of crew be ovbiously apparent. For example, I want to be able to delegate duties to other officers, such as crew management. I'm rather tired of waking up and finding the boat dead in the water for 4 hours as everyone simply decided to stop working. This dosen't happen, theres crew rotations, the captain's job is to manage the property of the navy (boat), not to babysit the crew. Thats the petty officers job Communication is a must as well, as is opening up the rest of the boat. But I'd like a little more level of immersion, I'd like a variable skill set of officers, noone is perfect at everything, so is having a preset slider bar system regarding ship duties randomly generated off of the 'birth' of the officer a bad thing? Sure medals and experience in a compartment can improve these, and should. Also I believe that the officer promotion should be standard as it is provided via SHcommander. If I had a rather extremely skilled and highly decotared officer it makes since that either BDU or the USN grant him a boat commission. What would be more immersive to be sailing on your last patrols before retirement, called into a wolfpack, and then notice that the tailing u-boat is in fact your former IWO?

06-02-06, 09:58 AM	#180
CannonFodder Bilge Rat Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I thought SH3 was fantastic, esp after some of the great mods that were later developed. For SH4 the biggest thing I could wish for would be a improvement and integration of time compression and crew management. Setting daily watches without guys falling asleep at the controls is a must! I would also like to see when you are in time compression above a number you set, ie 8X the captain, (you) are off duty and in your bunk. Your XO would be in command and follow captain's (your) standing orders. ie, avoid target "this" and "that", engage target "this" and "that" You would arrive on the command deck with the crew already getting underway to avoid or engage a contact, and not wake up to a "death screen" because you couldn't slow the time comp in time. It only makes sense to me that if the enemy AI can currently attack and sink you before you can lift a hand to get out of time compression, that the friendly AI crew mates can be smart enough to avoid that rock, not hit that friendly freighter or crash dive when swarmed by destroyers while you are rising from your bunk rubbing the sleep out of your eyes. Once the immediate threat is dealt with, your XO can report all happenings while you were napping. PS new here. Nice board. Great to see this series alive and well in the community.