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Old 02-26-18, 06:45 AM   #1
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Soul-eating pervert psychopath, not one bit different from his enemies. Our ally. We can be proud.
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I'd certainly agree with those who are calling it child abuse added to the fact the young girl is clearly showing signs of distress.
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Since the EU like the NATO is also about values, maybe we should meanwhile think of expelling Erdoghan's Turkey.
But there just was that weapon deal.. "The wider program could see the UK win contracts to provide engines, weapons, radars and sensors."
I guess brexit has to be financed, somehow.
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You missed out one of the headers in the title.

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Prime minister also uses last leg of diplomatic tour to issue warning to Turkish president to respect human rights obligations
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Old 02-26-18, 11:37 AM   #5
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Thats is drivel, Jim, or do your diplomats rewalyl think such appeals have any meaning to Turkey? It slike Germna diplomats teling Tuzrkey that the stellkar amount of weapjns and platform we dleivered Turkey should never be use din any confpölict with Kurdish groups.

It sonly a quesiton of time until Germany will allow that German companies will equip Turkey Leo-2A4's with better mine and missile protection, and German know-how being sold to Turkey so that they can build their own new MBT.

Its all diplomatic lies and drivel.

Of course Assad is not to be preferred, its just that assad does all the brutal, unscrupulous stuff needed to win him this war, so do the Russians, and thats why they are winning. Its easy to idenjtity Assad as a rithless villain, he does not hide it. He and the Russians, they have no remorse to let their masks fall for war victory. But we act as if Turkey and Erdoghan are any better, are more "civilized" and closer to what we claim to be our "values". We enoble the one monster, and condemn the other monster, while both are just the same monsters. The Turks are not one bit better that the Syrians and Russians, Erdoghan is not one bit better than Assad or Saddam. They are all the same breed of monsters. "He may be a son of a bitch, but he is OUR son of a bitch", is just rhethoric drivel as well. And we, the West, paralyse ourselves due to our obeidence to falling to a paradigm of illusory assuming that the Hague landwarfare convention has been generally accepted and that the strategems postulated by Clausewith would be true and of any meaning amongst these foreign cultures.

I recommend the early chapters in John Keegan's "The History of Warfare", where he goes with strong effort after the deconstruction of the myths about how correct Clausewitz should have been. He wasn't - already in his own time he was not.
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Of course mindset may change, but at least for now this is the right gesture at the right time

http://www.dw.com/en/germany-halts-p...nks/a-42305167

http://www.dw.com/en/germany-halts-w...ict/a-42229376
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