Silent Hunter 4 & Windows 10

[fireblade274]

Hi, so this issue first started in sh4 uboats expansion. A after a short time of game play, new and old saves crash my computer. loading old ones result in immediate crash, new saves, my last one I deployed to the Solomon islands (i think), encountered a convoy, dived, took out a few ships, went to free cam to see last torpedo hit, when I went underwater to view near enemy ship, crashes computer. this is just one example, many similar others where crashing happens after 20-30 min of gameplay. Never installed or tried to use mods on SH4.


But after completely uninstalling everything, including using cc cleaner for registry and deleting sh4 from docs folder, and simply trying to run sh4 without the expansion, I just got the same aformentioned crash after 1+ hr of game play. It happened when i went free cam underwater near enemy ship hull. Game runs very smoothly, until it crashes. constant 60fps on max settings.

im getting ready to put my head through a mirror after uninstalling and reinstalling this (and TWOS but thats a different story. cant click on ok after games synchronized from server ) sooooo many times ive lost track. each time i have to start a new save, play for more then an hour, only to verify if have to start again. which i do

Slight venting: I just want to play sh4 uboats stock, or TWOS. preferably both, but you know at least one working would be like the tops right now

Here's my specs:
i5 4690k oc to 4.6 ghz
win10 64 bit
2x HD6950s crossfired
480gb SSD
8gb RAM
750w

Originally Posted by fireblade274

Hi, so this issue first started in sh4 uboats expansion. A after a short time of game play, new and old saves crash my computer. loading old ones result in immediate crash, new saves, my last one I deployed to the Solomon islands (i think), encountered a convoy, dived, took out a few ships, went to free cam to see last torpedo hit, when I went underwater to view near enemy ship, crashes computer. this is just one example, many similar others where crashing happens after 20-30 min of gameplay. Never installed or tried to use mods on SH4.

Basically - never use old scores when changing the game version a/o modes.
Therefore, in such situations, it is always better to completely delete the folder SH4 under "My Documents". But do not worry, it will be recreated when you restart the game.

Since you have the Steam version of the game...
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...25&postcount=7
or Win10 problems
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...9&postcount=17

If this does not help, THEBERBSTER has put together all the tutorials related to SH4:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=219029

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by fireblade274

Hi, so this issue first started in sh4 uboats expansion. A after a short time of game play, new and old saves crash my computer. loading old ones result in immediate crash, new saves, my last one I deployed to the Solomon islands (i think), encountered a convoy, dived, took out a few ships, went to free cam to see last torpedo hit, when I went underwater to view near enemy ship, crashes computer. this is just one example, many similar others where crashing happens after 20-30 min of gameplay. Never installed or tried to use mods on SH4.


But after completely uninstalling everything, including using cc cleaner for registry and deleting sh4 from docs folder, and simply trying to run sh4 without the expansion, I just got the same aformentioned crash after 1+ hr of game play. It happened when i went free cam underwater near enemy ship hull. Game runs very smoothly, until it crashes. constant 60fps on max settings.

im getting ready to put my head through a mirror after uninstalling and reinstalling this (and TWOS but thats a different story. cant click on ok after games synchronized from server ) sooooo many times ive lost track. each time i have to start a new save, play for more then an hour, only to verify if have to start again. which i do

Slight venting: I just want to play sh4 uboats stock, or TWOS. preferably both, but you know at least one working would be like the tops right now

Here's my specs:
i5 4690k oc to 4.6 ghz
win10 64 bit
2x HD6950s crossfired
480gb SSD
8gb RAM
750w

What is your Windows 10 version and build?

I'm not talking about whether its a "Pro" or "Home" version, but what does your "Settings" / "System" / "About" page read?

If you don't know what I'm talking about, please read my Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install.

While reading the first post, go ahead and read the rest of the pages. Windows 10 has some things that prevent this old game from running as expected. If you follow what to do about checking your system to make sure it's "set" to play the game; plus installing it as I've described; plus adding Large Address Aware (LAA) properly; plus follow the "Do's and Don't" that I've outlined........ Windows 10 and the game will run better than ever!

[fireblade274]

Thank you for your reply! ive been mucking around in TWOS, finally got it to work but i kinda really like the point and shoot aspect of sh4, plus i feel the sinking mechanics are better.

Any way, my win 10 pro version is 1709 and os build 16299.248

I read a bit of your link but WOW thats a lot of info to take in at once.. I guess the first question i have is, since i have steam, how can i get sh4 installed somewhere other then programs 86 folder? Is LAA steam friendly?

[CapnScurvy]

Thanks for getting back regarding the version/build of Windows 10........that 1709 version, build 16299.248 is the latest as of this date. So, you're up to date with your Updates. GREAT!! That build number will change as Windows Updates itself. The Version 1709 is what they called their "Fall Creators Update" which has been a few months ago now. If Windows follows its pattern of upgrades, a newer version may not be too far off.

But lets work with the one we've got.

I'm happy to report some of the things I mentioned in my Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install are not needed to check with this newer version 1709. For instance the older legacy NetFramework versions are now included in the v.1709 build...and their "Enabled", so you don't have to go through your system and hand set their settings. Already done for you!

This means loading Large Address Aware onto your system to provide the game more access to the additional memory the game didn't plan on you having, will be much simpler. The question of which version of LAA should I use, is answered for you with the new 1709 build....use the "laa_2_0_4_NetFramework_4_5.zip" to work with the newer NetFramework v4.0 and newer, which is what's in v1709.

Now, your question of using a Steam download for the game.....oh boy, I'm not a Steam user. Never will be. I buy disk versions of games and never allow a seller to dictate to me when/what I can download. As you've already found out with Steam, you've had to purchase the "Base" SH4 version 1.3. To upgrade from v1.3, one of the most bug riddled game version Ubisoft pushed out on us (version 1.4 was much better!!) you've had to repurchase the last version of SH4 (v1.5) for an additional cost. Steam knows exactly what it's doing......getting players to buy a faulty version of the game, just to resell you a more stable version!! Sorry, I don't play that game!

So, I'm going to suggest you look here SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFO <> DOWNLOAD LINKS -STICKY INDEX. The THEBERBSTER is a Steam user, so he's got some very good insight on what to do with a Steam download of the game. When you get your Steam questions figured out, I'll be happy to help you with anything else Windows 10 related concerning the game.

[propbeanie]

THEBERBSTER now has his Steam links highlighted with ">STEAM User Information", so look for those. He has some nice color-coding to go with some nice information throughout his thread.

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi pb

The THEBERBSTER is a Steam user,

Oh. no he is'nt.
Disc man every time.

THEBERBSTER now has his Steam links highlighted with ">STEAM User Information",

Credit for this information in my tutorials goes to ValoWay
Peter

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Hi pb
Oh. no he is'nt.
Disc man every time.
Credit for this information in my tutorials goes to ValoWay
Peter

Sorry Peter, I thought you were a Steam "man"....my fault!

Anyway, his instructions are still a "must read" for those that choose Steam.

Even though I'm not a follower, I've read the Steam Forums and there's good information there too. Guys like yourself that have issues with Steam, and what to do about it. Misery enjoys company!!