Sinning in luxury

Reece · 11-19-17, 12:35 AM

Just keep the temperature down as low as possible and should be ok, one of my machines had a water cooled system, it worked very well but bulky and costly. Do they still use them? Has anyone ever tried Peltier devices for cooling CPU's?

I hope you get a good run with this one too mate.

Skybird · 11-19-17, 05:46 AM

A real good air cooler and any AIO design are not that much apart if efficiency, only that an air cooler is more silent. and if you think of it, an AIO or water cooler cool again ith air, in the end.

With serious maximum overclicking,m other rules may apply.

So far I find everything working very well. The GPU is hilariously silent even under load. The two beasts, CPU and GPU - are extremely beefy, my frames in games went up by factors between 2.5 and 3.5, the internal Assetto Corsa benchmark so a raise of 130% in total performance.

And today I had my coming out with VR. Wahn-sinn, einfach Wahnsinn! Racing is no more the same. Google Earth is no more the same. Diving is no more the same. Its madness.

The system maitnains stable and solid 90 fps with the Oculus, loike it shouzkld be on this headset. No matter what I threw at it so far, the GPU and fans stayed somewhat bored and kept a laid-back attitude.

i7 8700K and 1080TI-OC is a killer combo. And VR is Wahnsinn, simply Wahnsinn.

And no nausea, thanks to real frames=90, and some being-used to computer gaming.

I admit, Linux cannot keep up with this stuff so far.

Reece · 11-23-17, 09:51 PM

Wow, that is great performance, now I'm jealous!!

I'm not talking to you anymore!!

Skybird · 11-24-17, 07:11 AM

I tuned the fans a little bit, thy were in stealth mode, now I manually tuned them to reahc max at 50°. Thew result is stunning: No matter what I try and throw at the CPU, the temp does not get beyond 75° . For a CXPU of this type, that is a good ans safe value. You may get it coller with expensive and deliberate water collers, no AIOs though, but what for?

I fin summer room tempertaure is 5-7 degrees higher I can still undervolt and underclock a little bit. -0.025 V and -0.2 GHz should be safe to try and by what I read could give me another -5 to -10° in temps. I have more performance reserves than I can make use of.

The GPU - I have nothing to torment it with that brings its fans to leave the lower third of their operation range. Most of the time they are not even idle, but sit still.

When a game is played, they operate in the lower third of their rpm.

Yesterday I did the Nordsschleife in VR - with 90 cars on track. LOL.

Reece · 11-24-17, 07:39 PM

Yes I think your new machine will be more than adequate for years to come.

The temperature range of the cpu, I assume you are talking degrees C, seems rather high, I run my old machine around 50C but as you say for CXPU that is low.
I'm from the old era working with mainframes that had to be kept around 25C so I try to keep the CPU and GPU temps as low as possible. What is the norm for a CXPU chip?

Skybird · 11-24-17, 07:43 PM

I would agree - with lesser CPUs. I kept my older system cooler as well, but these i7s of Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake are known to be hot runners. I am surprised, tbh, that it gives me no greater problems and that I can get away with no dedicated massive water cooling (which would be much noisier).

Critical temperature is 100°C.

Rockin Robbins · 11-25-17, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

The system maitnains stable and solid 90 fps with the Oculus, loike it shouzkld be on this headset. No matter what I threw at it so far, the GPU and fans stayed somewhat bored and kept a laid-back attitude.

i7 8700K and 1080TI-OC is a killer combo. And VR is Wahnsinn, simply Wahnsinn.

And no nausea, thanks to real frames=90, and some being-used to computer gaming.

I admit, Linux cannot keep up with this stuff so far.

Very nice. One good thing is that present generation equipment runs cooler than that of generations past because it's not just piling on more GHz to go faster.

Makes me wonder what my budget system will be like when I break down to buy the RAM. Only thing we will have in common will be a 1080TI video card, and that won't be in my initial recipe. It will come after I do some tuning and evaluation. 90 fps in Oculus is exemplary! Congrats on your success!

Skybird · 11-25-17, 01:27 PM

I love it, and I boast with it at every opportunity.

This VR stuff really has send me into orbit. Yesterday IL-2 Battle for Stalingrad, and I tought it hardly gets any better - and today Dirt Rally, which made it even better, the so far most intense experience and spectacular graphics. Rushing up Pike Peak, or the flying cars of Finland - its madness.

VR really is a game changer, imo. Not perfect, not wiothout compromises, but still: a game changer. The whole system was designed to support it as best as possible - and I made just correct decisions, it seems.

Jimbuna · 11-26-17, 08:32 AM

^ That's great to know and possibly my next step forward with my new system

11-19-17, 12:35 AM	#1
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,777 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Just keep the temperature down as low as possible and should be ok, one of my machines had a water cooled system, it worked very well but bulky and costly. Do they still use them? Has anyone ever tried Peltier devices for cooling CPU's? I hope you get a good run with this one too mate. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

11-19-17, 05:46 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,707 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	A real good air cooler and any AIO design are not that much apart if efficiency, only that an air cooler is more silent. and if you think of it, an AIO or water cooler cool again ith air, in the end. With serious maximum overclicking,m other rules may apply. So far I find everything working very well. The GPU is hilariously silent even under load. The two beasts, CPU and GPU - are extremely beefy, my frames in games went up by factors between 2.5 and 3.5, the internal Assetto Corsa benchmark so a raise of 130% in total performance. And today I had my coming out with VR. *Wahn-sinn, einfach Wahnsinn!* Racing is no more the same. Google Earth is no more the same. Diving is no more the same. Its madness. The system maitnains stable and solid 90 fps with the Oculus, loike it shouzkld be on this headset. No matter what I threw at it so far, the GPU and fans stayed somewhat bored and kept a laid-back attitude. i7 8700K and 1080TI-OC is a killer combo. And VR is Wahnsinn, simply Wahnsinn. And no nausea, thanks to real frames=90, and some being-used to computer gaming. I admit, Linux cannot keep up with this stuff so far. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-23-17, 09:51 PM	#3
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,777 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Wow, that is great performance, now I'm jealous!! I'm not talking to you anymore!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

11-24-17, 07:11 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,707 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I tuned the fans a little bit, thy were in stealth mode, now I manually tuned them to reahc max at 50°. Thew result is stunning: No matter what I try and throw at the CPU, the temp does not get beyond 75° . For a CXPU of this type, that is a good ans safe value. You may get it coller with expensive and deliberate water collers, no AIOs though, but what for? I fin summer room tempertaure is 5-7 degrees higher I can still undervolt and underclock a little bit. -0.025 V and -0.2 GHz should be safe to try and by what I read could give me another -5 to -10° in temps. I have more performance reserves than I can make use of. The GPU - I have nothing to torment it with that brings its fans to leave the lower third of their operation range. Most of the time they are not even idle, but sit still. When a game is played, they operate in the lower third of their rpm. Yesterday I did the Nordsschleife in VR - with 90 cars on track. LOL. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-24-17, 07:39 PM	#5
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,777 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Yes I think your new machine will be more than adequate for years to come. The temperature range of the cpu, I assume you are talking degrees C, seems rather high, I run my old machine around 50C but as you say for CXPU that is low. I'm from the old era working with mainframes that had to be kept around 25C so I try to keep the CPU and GPU temps as low as possible. What is the norm for a CXPU chip? __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

11-24-17, 07:43 PM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,707 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I would agree - with lesser CPUs. I kept my older system cooler as well, but these i7s of Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake are known to be hot runners. I am surprised, tbh, that it gives me no greater problems and that I can get away with no dedicated massive water cooling (which would be much noisier). Critical temperature is 100°C. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-25-17, 01:27 PM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,707 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I love it, and I boast with it at every opportunity. This VR stuff really has send me into orbit. Yesterday IL-2 Battle for Stalingrad, and I tought it hardly gets any better - and today Dirt Rally, which made it even better, the so far most intense experience and spectacular graphics. Rushing up Pike Peak, or the flying cars of Finland - its madness. VR really is a game changer, imo. Not perfect, not wiothout compromises, but still: a game changer. The whole system was designed to support it as best as possible - and I made just correct decisions, it seems. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-26-17, 08:32 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,844 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ That's great to know and possibly my next step forward with my new system __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!