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Old 11-10-17, 05:33 PM   #1
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Hi mb
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so new orders bar is included in max optics?
Yes.

I am using Mark 14 torpedoes.
I shot 3 torpedoes at this target without a game problem.
1 dud 2 hits.
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What is your installation path?
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Old 11-10-17, 05:55 PM   #2
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Hi mb
Yes.

I am using Mark 14 torpedoes.
I shot 3 torpedoes at this target without a game problem.
1 dud 2 hits.
Medium Modern Split Freighter 3269T


What is your installation path?
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my install path is:
C:\Ubisoft\SH4\Data


i'm shooting Mark 10's. (S-18 model, man)
the problem seems to be 12 Websters Torpedo v2 or v3.
i got three Mk10 hits without any torpedo mod.
here is the mod list that works.
Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Ubisoft\SH4\MODS]

1 Game Fixes Only Mod v1.1
3 Real Environment mod install
4 GFO Patch for Real Env
5 Webster's No Crew Fatigue
6 Bigger Better Protractors
7 Extra Allied naval bases for Stock SH4 + UBM (V3.0)
8 Webster's Upgraded Deck Gun v2
9 Webster's New sonar view for v1.5
10 MaxOptics IV for GFO 1.1
11 Eye Patch for Stock
13 Pacific Sound Mod
14 Stop The Shouting
15 sobers compass mod_version color
16 3000 Yard Bearing Tool (1920x)
17 Magnified Hud Dials for v1.5_Large
18 Webster's Eliminate Floating Plankton
19 Remove grain effect

i would have tried for a photo but there were two DD's who were thinking otherwise.

i looked over the torpedo mods and i didn't see anything that was unusual so as usual we are left scratching our heads. thanks for being patient and listening. i am going to press on with this install-mod-list and sink more ships. AMF.
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Old 11-10-17, 07:23 PM   #3
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Default mark 14's loaded on S-18

peter,

how did mark 14's auto-load onto an s-18 while in port? this happened when i docked after my first manila mission in december 1941. i had 4 mk10's left from the patrol and the mk14's auto-loaded.
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Old 11-10-17, 08:42 PM   #4
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You would definitely have a tough time shooting those... It'd take a LOT of polishing of the tubes to get them to slip through...

Seems to me that changing a torp mod in a career didn't work too well, so you might have to start the career over mark.
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Hi pb
Thanks for the info.
There was no torpedo choice at the beginning for me with my Porpoise only mk14's.
I have never captained a S18 so I was not aware that the same principal applied.

The mod 12 Webster's Improved US Torpedo v3 should not be causing problems, I have used it over the years with GFO without any problems to date as you can see from my picture.
As you are pointing out it would seem to be down to torpedo incompatibility with the S18 boat.
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The S18 / S42 boats (basically, the same boat) can only take Mark 10 torpedoes. They are a smaller torpedo than the Mark XIV, lengthwise and in diameter. The Mk14 wouldn't even fit on the rails probably, in a Sugar Boat...

The v2 torpedo file only changes the parameters of how big and how strong the damage inflicted by the torpedo is, by a 35% increase. All v3 does is change that to a 50% increase over stock. Neither mod should cause him an issue. Something else in going on, unless... In and of itself, the torpedo mod is not really a big deal, but it is part of the player's boat, and shouldn't be changed while in a career. If he activated the mod ~after~ starting a career, that may have been the issue to begin with. The second situationt that mark bonamer describes (inappropriate torpedo loading) is very similar to what used to happen with v1.3 of the game (or was it v1.2??... ).

So the question to mark bonamer could be: "Did you activate / de-activate the torpedo mods after starting a career, and then continue with the same career?" However, I cannot remember the "root cause" of the old torpedo issues, and didn't SH3 also have that (inappropriate torpedoes loading)??... A mind is a terrible thing to lose. - perhaps mark bonamer should also check the file structure of the mods, and be certain that he has the "Data" folder where it should be for all of the mods he has in the MODS folder.
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Hi pb
It's a well known fact that the first patrol shold be done without making any upgrades or changes to the boat.
This rule of thumb is good for SH3-4-5.
Hopefully Mark will provide more information.
I think I might test out a new career with a S18 boat and see what happens.
On past experiences using these mods I do not think the problem is there but it will be interesting to see.
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You would definitely have a tough time shooting those... It'd take a LOT of polishing of the tubes to get them to slip through...

Seems to me that changing a torp mod in a career didn't work too well, so you might have to start the career over mark.
did not change the torpedo mod mid-career. all of the discussion that theberbster and i had on the subject was at the start of a career. currently, SH4 is running in stock mod as far as torpedos are concerned.
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