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Old 10-14-17, 03:45 PM   #1
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Yet you visit a forum about making people drown slowly by torpedoing the ship that they are on?
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Old 10-14-17, 04:10 PM   #2
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To take a young innocent is not right. Domesticated animals are just that. But, some young are not so innocent.
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Old 10-14-17, 07:29 PM   #3
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Yet you visit a forum about making people drown slowly by torpedoing the ship that they are on?

You are comparing game (s) that although predicated on things that in really happened to acts of cruelty in real life. There is no comparison.



Markus didn't say anything wrong.
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Old 10-14-17, 10:22 PM   #4
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It seems that more often than not, due to the nature of our prison system and the prisons themselves, people come out as worse criminals than when they went in. The harsh treatment they experience within (however well deserved) and the company of the dregs of society appears to have the opposite of a rehabilitative effect. Perhaps this jurisdiction recognizes this and is trying another way to guide those who are just beginning their criminal career back onto the right path.

Don't get me wrong...I believe those who torture and kill innocent beings such as children and animals belong in the lowest circle of hell. But, if there is a chance to turn them around by trying something other than what we've been doing, then I'm all for giving it a shot. Sometimes people who do evil things just haven't had anyone in their life who cared enough to show them how to deal with their problems. If, however, they turn out to be real psychopaths...well, then I say: to hell with them. Lock 'em up and throw away the key or just relieve the planet of them altogether.

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Old 10-14-17, 11:24 PM   #5
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They do have juvenile detention centers here in Australia, he should atleast spend some time there!! My 2¢.
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You are comparing game (s) that although predicated on things that in really happened to acts of cruelty in real life. There is no comparison.



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Ahh, he didn't say anything wrong, because that would require him to break moral or legal code, I merely point out that in both cases the nature of his experience is the same - he experiences violence indirectly, through the medium.
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Ahh, he didn't say anything wrong, because that would require him to break moral or legal code, I merely point out that in both cases the nature of his experience is the same - he experiences violence indirectly, through the medium.

They are most certainly not the same. One is a game and the other is real. Should one be held accountable by legal statutes and / or moral codes if one engages in video game playing and destroys a fictional character ? If by playing a Computer PC game and destroying ships and the like and no one in real life is harmed, where is the harm ? I might remind you that you are also member of this forum like Markus and have also destroyed your fair share of ships.
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They are most certainly not the same. One is a game and the other is real. Should one be held accountable by legal statutes and / or moral codes if one engages in video game playing and destroys a fictional character ? If by playing a Computer PC game and destroying ships and the like and no one in real life is harmed, where is the harm ? I might remind you that you are also member of this forum like Markus and have also destroyed your fair share of ships.
One is a news article depicting a real event while the other is a computer game depicting a real event. Both are informational medium. My point was knitpicking his statement in the sense that his phrasing implied that informational medium rather than event itself made him feel pain.

And no, one should not be penalised for consuming informational medium.
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One is a news article depicting a real event while the other is a computer game depicting a real event. Both are informational medium. My point was knitpicking his statement in the sense that his phrasing implied that informational medium rather than event itself made him feel pain.

And no, one should not be penalised for consuming informational medium.

Wrong again. One is " a news article reporting a real life event. " i.e a defenseless horse being cruelly shot and killed with an arrow that was minding it's own business and that should have been safe in it's own compound. Markus wasn't phrasing anything except in your mind. You are saying the shooting of a horse was " depicted ? " Further, why " knitpick " at all ?

With regards to consuming informational medium, in years past, Soviet Russia " penalized " it's masses most severely for " consuming " any news except that from Pravda, Tass or any other officially sanctioned news outlets.
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Wrong again. One is " a news article reporting a real life event. " i.e a defenseless horse being cruelly shot and killed with an arrow that was minding it's own business and that should have been safe in it's own compound. Markus wasn't phrasing anything except in your mind. You are saying the shooting of a horse was " depicted ? " Further, why " knitpick " at all ?

With regards to consuming informational medium, in years past, Soviet Russia " penalized " it's masses most severely for " consuming " any news except that from Pravda, Tass or any other officially sanctioned news outlets.
Sure, as he did not experience the event directly, same way he did not experience sinking merchant ships (though, to be correct, those are my assumptions rather than established facts).

And yet USSR no longer exists, nor do I support such a policy, hence I am not sure how that is relevant, except possibly as a veiled character assasination?
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