Las Vegas: 59 dead in Mandalay Bay shooting

eddie · 10-03-17, 01:08 PM

Wow, we have had the wrong ideas about what happened in Vegas yesterday! This tragedy isn't about those who were gunned down, its not about those who are still in the hospital, facing multiple surgeries, fighting for their lives, this isn't about the fact that those who had been shot for no reason that their blood still lies on the pavement, this isn't about those families whose lives have been shattered by this senseless shooting,this isn't about showing sympathy or compassion for the victims, we've got it all wrong! We should turn our attention to the REAL victims of this tragedy, THE gun owners of America! What the hell were we thinking!?! If that's all these big bad arse gun owners can think about at a time like this, that's beyond pathetic! That's just self centered BS, that's all. If seeing those lifeless bodies of innocent people lying there doesn't move you to sympathy or compassion, if it just moves you to want to protect your guns, then I have a message

Mr Quatro · 10-03-17, 01:14 PM

Stop holding it all in eddie and tell us what you really think

August · 10-03-17, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Stop holding it all in eddie and tell us what you really think

I think the moderators need to send him a message.

Onkel Neal · 10-03-17, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

Wow, we have had the wrong ideas about what happened in Vegas yesterday! This tragedy isn't about those who were gunned down, its not about those who are still in the hospital, facing multiple surgeries, fighting for their lives, this isn't about the fact that those who had been shot for no reason that their blood still lies on the pavement, this isn't about those families whose lives have been shattered by this senseless shooting,this isn't about showing sympathy or compassion for the victims, we've got it all wrong! We should turn our attention to the REAL victims of this tragedy, THE gun owners of America! What the hell were we thinking!?! If that's all these big bad arse gun owners can think about at a time like this, that's beyond pathetic! That's just self centered BS, that's all. If seeing those lifeless bodies of innocent people lying there doesn't move you to sympathy or compassion, if it just moves you to want to protect your guns, then I have a message

Keep a cool head, mate. We want to hear what you have to say, just avoid inflammatory and vulgar language

Catfish · 10-03-17, 02:28 PM

This link posted by Dowly already has it all.

http://www.theonion.com/article/amer...ocialMarketing

Why do something? The problem is the man, not the weapon.
So give everone on this planet the atomic bomb, then we will all be free and secure

August · 10-03-17, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

This link posted by Dowly already has it all.

http://www.theonion.com/article/amer...ocialMarketing

Why do something?
I am for giving everone on this planet the atomic bomb, then we will all be free and secure

What's this give stuff? My AR-15 cost me $400 hard earned bucks. Nobody gave me anything!

August · 10-03-17, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Keep a cool head, mate. We want to hear what you have to say, just avoid inflammatory and vulgar language

Well I for one don't want to hear what he has to say if he's going to lump every gun owner in the country together like that.

Méo · 10-03-17, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

The question has been raised about why the hotel didn't notice the shooter taking large amounts of luggage or other items into the hotel and/or his room.

It's not about what happened or how it could have been possible, that's the police job.

It's about what will be (or can be) the next strike by a nutjob/terrorist and what can be done to prevent it.

My minigun example was an extreme example I know, but I guess before 9/11 no one would believe someone (or some organization) could hijack and pilot a commercial airplane...

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Originally Posted by vienna

"Who is really, actually, benefiting from the lack of controls: public safety or the bank accounts of the manufacturers and sellers?"...

Right. I don't live in the U.S. but it seems like the public doesn't really see it (or don't want to).

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Keep a cool head, mate. We want to hear what you have to say, just avoid inflammatory and vulgar language

I agree but,

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Originally Posted by eddie

We should turn our attention to the REAL victims of this tragedy, THE gun owners of America! What the hell were we thinking!?! If that's all these big bad arse gun owners can think about at a time like this, that's beyond pathetic!

I think he's got a really good point here, and I don't want to imagine what a dad, a mom, a husband/boyfriend or wife/girlfriend of the victims would feel after reading this.

Platapus · 10-03-17, 04:22 PM

Time for me to post, yet again, one of my favourite quotes

"These are dangerous times. When we are afraid, we want to
be protected, and since we cannot protect ourselves against such
horrors as mass murder by bombers, we are tempted to run to
the government, a government that is always willing to trade the
promise of protection for our freedom, which left, as always,
the question: How much freedom are we willing to relinquish for
such a bald promise?" Gerry Spence

Substitute bombers with snipers/shooters and it applies to this incident

Onkel Neal · 10-03-17, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

I think he's got a really good point here, and I don't want to imagine what a dad, a mom, a husband/boyfriend or wife/girlfriend of the victims would feel after reading this.

This thread was politicized early on. Go back and check.

Buddahaid · 10-03-17, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

....this isn't about those families whose lives have been shattered by this senseless shooting,this isn't about showing sympathy or compassion for the victims, we've got it all wrong! We should turn our attention to the REAL victims of this tragedy, THE gun owners of America!.....

I'd bet many of those very same families are gun owners themselves.

10-03-17, 01:08 PM	#1
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Wow, we have had the wrong ideas about what happened in Vegas yesterday! This tragedy isn't about those who were gunned down, its not about those who are still in the hospital, facing multiple surgeries, fighting for their lives, this isn't about the fact that those who had been shot for no reason that their blood still lies on the pavement, this isn't about those families whose lives have been shattered by this senseless shooting,this isn't about showing sympathy or compassion for the victims, we've got it all wrong! We should turn our attention to the REAL victims of this tragedy, THE gun owners of America! What the hell were we thinking!?! If that's all these big bad arse gun owners can think about at a time like this, that's beyond pathetic! That's just self centered BS, that's all. If seeing those lifeless bodies of innocent people lying there doesn't move you to sympathy or compassion, if it just moves you to want to protect your guns, then I have a message __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone Last edited by Onkel Neal; 10-03-17 at 01:43 PM. Reason: poor choice of words

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Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Stop holding it all in eddie and tell us what you really think __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,799 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	This link posted by Dowly already has it all. http://www.theonion.com/article/amer...ocialMarketing Why do something? The problem is the man, not the weapon. So give everone on this planet the atomic bomb, then we will all be free and secure __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 10-03-17 at 02:56 PM.*

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,388 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Time for me to post, yet again, one of my favourite quotes "These are dangerous times. When we are afraid, we want to be protected, and since we cannot protect ourselves against such horrors as mass murder by bombers, we are tempted to run to the government, a government that is always willing to trade the promise of protection for our freedom, which left, as always, the question: How much freedom are we willing to relinquish for such a bald promise?" Gerry Spence Substitute bombers with snipers/shooters and it applies to this incident __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.