US to pull staff from Cuba over 'attacks'

August · 09-30-17, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Could be, not sure what they'd have to gain from doing that, but 4D chess and all that.

Well Putin has been courting them pretty hard in recent years. He has been to the island twice, had Raoul come to Moscow. He's forgiven billions in Soviet era debts, made agreements and loans for infrastructure development, thermal energy and oil exploration. Heck they're even started shipping Russian oil to Cuba again to make up for shortfalls from that other socialist paradise Venezuela. I'd think cooling of relations between the west and Cuba would both protect and help advance that agenda significantly.

On the other hand I don't see what advantage the Cuban government would get by making these attacks themselves. My gut tells me that somebody is setting them up as Patsies and the signs seem to point to Moscow. I could be wrong...

Platapus · 09-30-17, 09:38 AM

If they think it is some sort of sonic thing, why can't we bring in sensors to identify and locate the source?

August · 09-30-17, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

If they think it is some sort of sonic thing, why can't we bring in sensors to identify and locate the source?

That's a good question. The news reports i've been seeing say that these things can be hand held and there can be a delay between exposure and noticeable effects I guess that could make it difficult to locate the sources.

Aktungbby · 09-30-17, 11:31 AM

maybe its a lot of ultrasonic roach killers kicked up to 'Miller time'

Platapus · 09-30-17, 01:16 PM

It would be a real kick in the butt if it turns out to be one of our own counter-surveillance efforts.

Mr Quatro · 09-30-17, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Well Putin has been courting them pretty hard in recent years. He has been to the island twice, had Raoul come to Moscow. He's forgiven billions in Soviet era debts, made agreements and loans for infrastructure development, thermal energy and oil exploration. Heck they're even started shipping Russian oil to Cuba again to make up for shortfalls from that other socialist paradise Venezuela. I'd think cooling of relations between the west and Cuba would both protect and help advance that agenda significantly.

On the other hand I don't see what advantage the Cuban government would get by making these attacks themselves. My gut tells me that somebody is setting them up as Patsies and the signs seem to point to Moscow. I could be wrong...

Speaking of Russia I hope they don't make a play for Puerto Rico with all of this hurricane mayhem and the delay in Trump sending money and supplies to their island.
They already influence Cuba and Venezuela, but that's another subject.

I hope they solve this mystery soon and keep us informed of the embassy staff's health.

Will they suffer just a little while or for life?

Platapus · 09-30-17, 03:06 PM

I think the last thing Russia would want is to take over financial responsibility for PR.

Besides the civilian resistance to such a take over would be prohibitively expensive with little benefit for Russia.

It is in Russia's best interest to have the US continue financially supporting PR.

Mr Quatro · 09-30-17, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I think the last thing Russia would want is to take over financial responsibility for PR.

Besides the civilian resistance to such a take over would be prohibitively expensive with little benefit for Russia.

It is in Russia's best interest to have the US continue financially supporting PR.

Okay with me ... remember Russians are chess players and they might make a play in some other ways ... the communist party was started in small groups of four (4) or five (5) people. All it would take is a little civil unrest to get it started.

Mr Quatro · 10-02-17, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Okay with me ... remember Russians are chess players and they might make a play in some other ways ... the communist party was started in small groups of four (4) or five (5) people. All it would take is a little civil unrest to get it started.

This thread is about Cuba so I will start another thread about the problem in Puerto Rico: https://www.facebook.com/newlypress/...type=2&theater

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,382 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	If they think it is some sort of sonic thing, why can't we bring in sensors to identify and locate the source? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,037 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	maybe its a lot of ultrasonic roach killers kicked up to 'Miller time' __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,382 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	It would be a real kick in the butt if it turns out to be one of our own counter-surveillance efforts. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-30-17, 03:06 PM	#7
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,382 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I think the last thing Russia would want is to take over financial responsibility for PR. Besides the civilian resistance to such a take over would be prohibitively expensive with little benefit for Russia. It is in Russia's best interest to have the US continue financially supporting PR. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.