need a new browser recommendation for win 7

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Webster, for Windows 7-64, I've got IE11, Firefox (whatever the latest version) and Opera all on the same computers, and all for the same reason. Some sites want and need IE 11 and only IE 11. Others are OK with Firefox, but I use mostly Opera because it is "lighter" in its load size, and faster. However, like all the others, certain web site "techniques" will cause it problems, just like all the others. It used to be that a site might have a logo on the home page that would say "Optimized to work with IE6" or "Opitmized for Firefox" or whatever, but now it's up to the user to figure it out, I guess. If a particular page gives me trouble, I try one of the other browsers. I keep IE 11 as my "default" browser, which is what opens when certain programs (Photoshop LE) open their "Help" page, but it can be a bit inconvenient to always having to answer "Not now" or whatever it is, to the pop-up "This is not your default browser. Do you want to change that?", every time I open one of the other browsers first. My XP boots are no longer allowed on the internet, and I'll pull the wire whenever going into XP, but I had a similar set-up on them. I have two school-age sons, both on Windows 10-64 laptops, and one uses Firefox almost exclusively, the other uses Opera, but they both still have IE whatever the last number was, and that Edge, which is nothing more than IE whatever, with the guts cut out, so that it resembles an Opera install... But they also have to swap browsers also whenever they encounter page issues. I'd say that the http "standard" isn't quite so...

wow, so even if I upgraded to win 10 "against my will" just to get edge in hopes it will give me trouble free browsing, I will still have all this website not working BS?????? what the hell?

I find it simply amazing that with todays tech this is an issue that a browser cant function on any and all websites that you go to.

I just want "1" browser that works trouble free on any website I go to and secondary is it would be nice if it was secure, lastly would be my concerns about the amount of spyware and selling my online activity.

is chrome also going to not work on some websites? as much as I hate google and loath the idea of using it, if it runs trouble free, then I guess I will just have to learn to live with it and its invasiveness.

at the end of the day im just going to be practical and what ever works and does it all "without issues" that's what I will use, even if its not what I "want to use"

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by Webster

... I find it simply amazing that with todays tech this is an issue that a browser cant function on any and all websites that you go to...

they are all out to do the others in, and corner the market for themselves, so that they can sell your info to the highest bidder... that's the cynical me... sorry.

I'm going to have to check-out that Vivaldi also, RR. I might also sic my boys on it. They're always experimenting with that stuff, and will try to break it, stretch it, bend it, etc. They will put it through its paces fershur ferserttin...

so does google chrome have the same issues with "some" websites freezing up and not loading correctly as the others do?

honestly, just having smooth trouble free browsing that works is my first concern, that is far more important then any privacy issues

[Rockin Robbins]

Originally Posted by Webster

so does google chrome have the same issues with "some" websites freezing up and not loading correctly as the others do?

honestly, just having smooth trouble free browsing that works is my first concern, that is far more important then any privacy issues

The root cause of web sites not working on all browsers is Microsoft, ignoring established worldwide web standards and doing things their own way. When they had a giant share of the browser market, that forced web sites to use non-standard Microsloth ways of doing things, making their websites incompatible with other browsers. This was exactly what Microsoft wanted.

Nowdays, we are still saddled with Microsoft ignoring web standards and websites having to identify which browser you are using and format accordingly. Some web programmers aren't up to speed and do this badly. Some, like Microsoft itself, feed you a message that you must use Internet Exploder or that abortion of theirs that they claim is a "modern browser" and people are just running away from like it was a leper. It is.

[mapuc]

(an off topic memory)

My first browser was Netscape don't know if its correct spelled.

Markus
(end of an off topic memory)

[aanker]

Originally Posted by mapuc

(an off topic memory)

My first browser was Netscape don't know if its correct spelled.

Markus
(end of an off topic memory)

Yes, I too fondly remember Netscape.

I have Win 7 64 bit and have used Firefox for many years without trouble on any website. I think the Mozilla (Mozilla Firefox) browser is descended from the Netscape source code that Mozilla wrote for Netscape.

My Cable TV provider that I hate - I won't mention 'Comcast' cough, cough, by name : ) requires the Adobe Flash Player plugin so I don't go to their site. YouTube videos play just fine without it.

I don't use the Java plugin either and the chess sites that I visit don't require it.

So, I recommend Firefox on Win 7 the OP asked about. I have refused to use IE, the browser Rockin Robbins affectionately calls 'Exploder' for years.

[propbeanie]

Was Netscape the one that could run from the Comman Line, back in Win31 days? I can't remember, but I ~think~ my first forays were with Netscape 3.0... ?? Before that, I'd been doing a C-64 with bbs software.

In the meantime, I have been using Vivaldi for a few days now, and I do like it. It is very similar to Opera, but better. Like a cross between Opera and Firefox, only faster and seemingly more stable. No issues thus far. No bad page loads or anything. I don't know about their "security", but I haven't had pop-ups when going to some of the sites that will generate those in Firefox and / or IE11 (both with "pop-up blockers")...