Pardon me?

vienna · 07-26-17, 04:35 AM

Well, it just goes to show you all those Latin drills literally drilled into us in those old school 'ruler across the knuckles, switch across the seat' parochial schools just didn't take once we fled the ecclesiastical fold. For a good many of us 'lapsed Catholics' (which kind of sounds like we didn't keep up the membership fees), once we were out the school door and rid of the 'black veiled monsters', we basically ran wild. I do have the 'distinction' of being the only kid in my school who actually slugged a nun, so, that combined with other subsequent transgressions has probably ensured I will not be enjoying a pleasant hereafter, if there is one. The main downside is the need to alter my walking routes to avoid churches lest, in passing by one, I should suddenly burst into flames...

The subject of Presidential pardons reminded me of a part of impressionist-comedian Rich Little's routine following the resignation and 'pardon' (deference to Platapus) of Nixon; impersonating Gerald Ford who is asked in an interview how he found now being President: "The transition has gone pretty smoothly; the White House staff in particular is very, very polite: they keep saying, "Pardon me, pardon me..."...

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propbeanie · 07-26-17, 06:29 AM

Ah yesh, vienna - I remember those days all too well... still have nightmares about Sister Francis (or was it Frances??). She hated boys, and it seemed especially me... but back then, as an "alterboy", we had to say all sorts of stuff in Latin... not too much stayed in my grey matter either, other than Sancto, some of the stuff on the back of coinage (e pluribus unum), Semper Fi(delis), and the ole reliable ad infinitum ad nauseum - which is a "fake" Latin phrase... - I can see though, that we can use Aktungbby, as well as Jim Belushi, as reliable sources of lern-Ed Latin phraseology, 'cause he's got it in a video right there!...

Very nice posting Platapus. One thing I find is that a lot of folks discussing the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, or any other other early US documents don't read the history of them nor do they try to understand them, and just repeat "modern" history's ad infinitum ad nauseum repeatings of generalizations and mis-information. The devil is in the details.

Are you going to do a post on "Enumerated Powers"? Lot's of folks have difficulty with the "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

vienna · 07-26-17, 09:02 AM

I was also an altar boy in Catholic school; I remember the newbies were given the early daily masses to assist; IIRC, the earliest mass in our parish was at 5:00 or 5:30 am and we boys were expected to be there early to prepare, so it meant leaving the house at about 4:00 to 4:30 am and trudging through the cold San Francisco streets, clear sky or rain. It wasn't a long walk, mine was about 7 or 8 blocks in my case, but it could be a bit spooky. I also have forgotten almost all of the Latin I learned, but, for some odd reason, I can still recite the Suscipiat correctly from memory to this day. Odd indeed. If you're looking for a bit of nostalgia, I came across this link a while back; its a handbook for altar boys and the various forms of Mass:

http://www.sanctamissa.org/en/servin...servers-0.html

Now, back to the original subject, if you'll 'pardon' the digression.

Here are a couple of links dealing with Presidential pardon's 'Greatest Hits':

7 Famous Presidential Pardons --

http://www.history.com/news/history-...ential-pardons

This next list has most of the same names as the previous list, but it is included because some not on the first list are a bit interesting...

11 notable presidential pardons --

http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayof...ons/index.html

List of people pardoned or granted clemency by the President of the United States --

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

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Mr Quatro · 07-26-17, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

I was also an altar boy in Catholic school; I remember the newbies were given the early daily masses to assist; IIRC, the earliest mass in our parish was at 5:00 or 5:30 am and we boys were expected to be there early to prepare, so it meant leaving the house at about 4:00 to 4:30 am and trudging through the cold San Francisco streets, clear sky or rain. It wasn't a long walk, mine was about 7 or 8 blocks in my case, but it could be a bit spooky. I also have forgotten almost all of the Latin I learned, but, for some odd reason, I can still recite the Suscipiat correctly from memory to this day. Odd indeed. If you're looking for a bit of nostalgia, I came across this link a while back; its a handbook for altar boys and the various forms of Mass:

http://www.sanctamissa.org/en/servin...servers-0.html

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I pardon you vienna ... all things are spiritual. What you describe is still in you and you have to forgive those misguided souls and move on in life.

Now please pardon me as I try to help you understand that what you have been through is hell: http://www.charismamag.com/spirit/su...nd-an-exorcist

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our Charismatic churches often do not discuss or embrace the ministry of deliverance the people of God don't know the difference between a deliverance minister and an exorcist and can end up falling into deception. In the 1913 Webster's Dictionary, we find the definition of both an exorcism and deliverance.

Exorcism is defined as, "Driving out of evil spirits from persons or places by conjuration." Conjuration is incantation, which is a witchcraft definition. Exorcism is an expression or trick used in conjuring. Synonyms to conjuration are: abracadabra, bewitchment, charm, spell, enchantment, hex and incantation—which are all witchcraft terms and practices.

Related words to conjuration are: curse, jinx, magic, necromancy, sorcery, voodoo, and wizardry—which are again practices involving evil spirits.

Platapus · 07-26-17, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

Are you going to do a post on "Enumerated Powers"? Lot's of folks have difficulty with the "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

You do NOT want me to get into the forgotten 9th and 10th amendments. Trust me.

Grrrrrr

propbeanie · 07-26-17, 08:10 PM

- but it would be ~fun~... though perhaps a smidgen on the vebose side of things, necessarily, due to the subject...

- everybody thinks that the congress can write any law they want to, and that the Supreme Court can undo any law they want to, and that all the president needs is a pen and cell phone...

Not too many politicians (nor citizens) try to emulate the George Washington model...

Aktungbby · 07-27-17, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

I do have the 'distinction' of being the only kid in my school who actually slugged a nun, so, that combined with other subsequent transgressions has probably ensured I will not be enjoying a pleasant hereafter, if there is one. The main downside is the need to alter my walking routes to avoid churches lest, in passing by one, I should suddenly burst into flames...

NOPE! it'll B 'Akbar Vienna' time though

07-26-17, 04:35 AM	#1
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,726 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well, it just goes to show you all those Latin drills literally drilled into us in those old school 'ruler across the knuckles, switch across the seat' parochial schools just didn't take once we fled the ecclesiastical fold. For a good many of us 'lapsed Catholics' (which kind of sounds like we didn't keep up the membership fees), once we were out the school door and rid of the 'black veiled monsters', we basically ran wild. I do have the 'distinction' of being the only kid in my school who actually slugged a nun, so, that combined with other subsequent transgressions has probably ensured I will not be enjoying a pleasant hereafter, if there is one. The main downside is the need to alter my walking routes to avoid churches lest, in passing by one, I should suddenly burst into flames... The subject of Presidential pardons reminded me of a part of impressionist-comedian Rich Little's routine following the resignation and 'pardon' (deference to Platapus) of Nixon; impersonating Gerald Ford who is asked in an interview how he found now being President: "The transition has gone pretty smoothly; the White House staff in particular is very, very polite: they keep saying, "Pardon me, pardon me..."... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

07-26-17, 06:29 AM	#2
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,129 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 4	Ah yesh, vienna - I remember those days all too well... still have nightmares about Sister Francis (or was it Frances??). She hated boys, and it seemed especially me... but back then, as an "alterboy", we had to say all sorts of stuff in Latin... not too much stayed in my grey matter either, other than Sancto, some of the stuff on the back of coinage (e pluribus unum), Semper Fi(delis), and the ole reliable ad infinitum ad nauseum - which is a "fake" Latin phrase... - I can see though, that we can use Aktungbby, as well as Jim Belushi, as reliable sources of lern-Ed Latin phraseology, 'cause he's got it in a video right there!... Very nice posting Platapus. One thing I find is that a lot of folks discussing the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, or any other other early US documents don't read the history of them nor do they try to understand them, and just repeat "modern" history's ad infinitum ad nauseum repeatings of generalizations and mis-information. The devil is in the details. Are you going to do a post on "Enumerated Powers"? Lot's of folks have difficulty with the "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

07-26-17, 09:02 AM	#3
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,726 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I was also an altar boy in Catholic school; I remember the newbies were given the early daily masses to assist; IIRC, the earliest mass in our parish was at 5:00 or 5:30 am and we boys were expected to be there early to prepare, so it meant leaving the house at about 4:00 to 4:30 am and trudging through the cold San Francisco streets, clear sky or rain. It wasn't a long walk, mine was about 7 or 8 blocks in my case, but it could be a bit spooky. I also have forgotten almost all of the Latin I learned, but, for some odd reason, I can still recite the Suscipiat correctly from memory to this day. Odd indeed. If you're looking for a bit of nostalgia, I came across this link a while back; its a handbook for altar boys and the various forms of Mass: http://www.sanctamissa.org/en/servin...servers-0.html Now, back to the original subject, if you'll 'pardon' the digression. Here are a couple of links dealing with Presidential pardon's 'Greatest Hits': 7 Famous Presidential Pardons -- http://www.history.com/news/history-...ential-pardons This next list has most of the same names as the previous list, but it is included because some not on the first list are a bit interesting... 11 notable presidential pardons -- http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayof...ons/index.html List of people pardoned or granted clemency by the President of the United States -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

07-26-17, 08:10 PM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,129 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 4	- but it would be ~fun~... though perhaps a smidgen on the vebose side of things, necessarily, due to the subject... - everybody thinks that the congress can write any law they want to, and that the Supreme Court can undo any law they want to, and that all the president needs is a pen and cell phone... Not too many politicians (nor citizens) try to emulate the George Washington model... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna