US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 225

August · 07-14-17, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I seem to recall you liking a hamstrung government during the last administration.

Indeed I was. When they will do no good then it's better that they do nothing all, but I'm all for draining the swamp so I want Trump to be allowed to do it.

Buddahaid · 07-14-17, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Indeed I was. When they will do no good then it's better that they do nothing all, but I'm all for draining the swamp so I want Trump to be allowed to do it.

The problem there, as I see it, is not everything in a swamp is bad. I doubt Trump has the foresight to know the difference, and even the good is lost without the bad as a weather gauge. So it still boils down to how one defines progress, and that will always be contentious.

I personally do NOT want to see the USA become a one party system regardless of how any one person feels about what is right. That would be the end of civil liberty so hurray for hamstrings.

Catfish · 07-15-17, 03:09 PM

http://www.iflscience.com/editors-bl...-back-to-iran/

Well we don't know whether he would have found anything

Méo · 07-15-17, 07:03 PM

FWIW, this made me chuckle a bit, Trump doesn't really seem to appreciate Daft Punk

August · 07-15-17, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The problem there, as I see it, is not everything in a swamp is bad. I doubt Trump has the foresight to know the difference, and even the good is lost without the bad as a weather gauge. So it still boils down to how one defines progress, and that will always be contentious.

I personally do NOT want to see the USA become a one party system regardless of how any one person feels about what is right. That would be the end of civil liberty so hurray for hamstrings.

I don't see how not wanting these investigations to drag out for years equals support of one party systems or the end of civil liberties.

As for good things in a swamp, maybe you're average everyday swamp but this is the Federal Government we're talking about. It can stand a heckuva lot of draining before we risk loosing anything valuable.

vienna · 07-15-17, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

FWIW, this made me chuckle a bit, Trump doesn't really seem to appreciate Daft Punk

(Trump thinking to himself at ceremony: "'Daft Punk'!?! I've really got to plug up those leaks in my administration; somebody's leaked the code name the Secret Service gave me!!"...)...

<O>

Buddahaid · 07-15-17, 11:29 PM

u crank · 07-16-17, 07:28 AM

^
That's the exact look I have when my wife asks me if I want to go 'shopping'.

vienna · 07-16-17, 08:46 AM

So, then,...

...unbridled enthusiasm?...

<O>

em2nought · 07-16-17, 03:34 PM

If it ever came to another civil war, it's nice to know that those who support Trump would not only shoot snowflakes for free, but they'd bring their own arms and ammo to do it. The people the other side would expect to do the fighting for them are so ingrained to receiving money for nothing, who knows how much you'd actually have to give them.

eddie · 07-16-17, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by em2nought

If it ever came to another civil war, it's nice to know that those who support Trump would not only shoot snowflakes for free, but they'd bring their own arms and ammo to do it. The people the other side would expect to do the fighting for them are so ingrained to receiving money for nothing, who knows how much you'd actually have to give them.

What an ignorant statement, Only way the Trump supporter's would do anything like that, would be when they are loaded on booze! Otherwise they wouldn't have the brass to do anything.

August · 07-17-17, 03:08 PM

Another Clinton whistleblower found dead.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...ion-found-dead

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Eberwein was a former Haitian government official who was expected to expose the extent of Clinton Foundation corruption and malpractice next week.
He has been found dead in Miami at the age of 50.
The circumstances surrounding Eberwein’s death are also nothing less than unpalatable. According to Miami-Dade’s medical examiner records supervisor, the official cause of death is “gunshot to the head.“ Eberwein’s death has been registered as “suicide” by the government. But not long before his death, he acknowledged that his life was in danger because he was outspoken on the criminal activities of the Clinton Foundation.
Eberwein was a fierce critic of the Clinton Foundation’s activities in the Caribbean island, where he served as director general of the government’s economic development agency, Fonds d’assistance économique et social, for three years. “The Clinton Foundation, they are criminals, they are thieves, they are liars, they are a disgrace,” Eberwein said at a protest outside the Clinton Foundation headquarters in Manhattan last year. Eberwein was due to appear on Tuesday before the Haitian Senate Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission where he was widely expected to testify that the Clinton Foundation misappropriated Haiti earthquake donations from international donors. But this “suicide” gets even more disturbing…
Eberwein was only 50-years-old and reportedly told acquaintances he feared for his life because of his fierce criticism of the Clinton Foundation. His close friends and business partners were taken aback by the idea he may have committed suicide. “It’s really shocking,” said friend Gilbert Bailly. “We grew up together; he was like family.

MaDef · 07-17-17, 04:58 PM

That's a bit disingenuous isn't it? Eberwein was facing allegations of fraud and corruption himself, so the more plausible explanation is. he took his own life.

August · 07-17-17, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

That's a bit disingenuous isn't it? Eberwein was facing allegations of fraud and corruption himself, so the more plausible explanation is. he took his own life.

Hey i'm making no claims, politics is a rough business. I'm just checking off the score.

vienna · 07-17-17, 10:06 PM

So, then, is this death attributable to Trump? GOP activist who colluded with Russian hackers in an effort to boost Trump's election and who most likely would have had some knowledge of possible Trump campaign/Russian connections and dies 10 days after going public in an interview with the Wall Street Journal:

The Wall Street Journal: Details emerge in suicide of GOP activist Peter W. Smith who sought Hillary Clinton emails --

http://markets.businessinsider.com/n...emails-5581627

I don't know; it all sounds convenient and shady to me...

But hey:

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Hey i'm making no claims, politics is a rough business. I'm just checking off the score.

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07-16-17, 07:28 AM	#3368
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,748 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	^ That's the exact look I have when my wife asks me if I want to go 'shopping'. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,720 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	So, then,... ...unbridled enthusiasm?... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

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em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If it ever came to another civil war, it's nice to know that those who support Trump would not only shoot snowflakes for free, but they'd bring their own arms and ammo to do it. The people the other side would expect to do the fighting for them are so ingrained to receiving money for nothing, who knows how much you'd actually have to give them. __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

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Méo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Quebec City Posts: 1,153 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	FWIW, this made me chuckle a bit, Trump doesn't really seem to appreciate Daft Punk

07-17-17, 04:58 PM	#3373
MaDef Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,194 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	That's a bit disingenuous isn't it? Eberwein was facing allegations of fraud and corruption himself, so the more plausible explanation is. he took his own life.