The Spooks At NSA Just Got Spookier...

[Von Due]

I guess it was the tone and editing that nagged me. It reminded me too much of the countless conspiracy theory videos out there and if there is anything that annoys me to the brink of detonation, it's conspiracy theories. For NSA and suchlike, the line between c.t. and fact is blurry. Inevitable due to the necessity for hush hush and some people's pathological search for bogiemen, but it's extremely annoying.

I suppose my inbuilt low tolerance for c.t. came across louder than intended. When it comes to belief vs disbelief, I have no reason to pick one over the other, not without facts that is and I hadn't looked at the article you mentioned. All I had at the time of posting was that video in isolation.

Edit: Somewhat hysterically funny fact: This may have changed now but for the most of its existence, the existence of the ECHELON program was admitted by all participating nations except the US which, absurdly enough, kept insisting it was all fantasy.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Von Due

I guess it was the tone and editing that nagged me. It reminded me too much of the countless conspiracy theory videos out there and if there is anything that annoys me to the brink of detonation, it's conspiracy theories. For NSA and suchlike, the line between c.t. and fact is blurry. Inevitable due to the necessity for hush hush and some people's pathological search for bogiemen, but it's extremely annoying.

I suppose my inbuilt low tolerance for c.t. came across louder than intended. When it comes to belief vs disbelief, I have no reason to pick one over the other, not without facts that is and I hadn't looked at the article you mentioned. All I had at the time of posting was that video in isolation.

Edit: Somewhat hysterically funny fact: This may have changed now but for the most of its existence, the existence of the ECHELON program was admitted by all participating nations except the US which, absurdly enough, kept insisting it was all fantasy.

I am actually with you on the video's tone; it tended, to me, to smack of either the filmmakers' trying to justify that expensive film school tuition to their parents or their auditioning for the 'big time'. Sometimes it is best to treat the 'tone' of something as a sort of interference: ignore it and concentrate on the actual 'signal'; as Joe Friday used to say "Just the facts". I also tend to get a bit weary of the 'tin-foil hat' bent of some of the YT posts. When I first saw the report on Inside Edition, I thought it was a fascinating segment and I watched the YT video. I did, however, want to know exactly where the data was coming from and that was how I went on to find the rest of the information. If you look at some of the other YT videos on the subject building or some of the other web sites, your 'conspiracy theory' qualms would have been duly justified, but the data I linked and described appears to have the most "spine": it stands up on its own. I have found the best way to deal with some questionable matters is "Trust, but verify"...

You're also right, it is amusing how some "Top Secret" matters are laughably transparent. How many times have you heard some intelligence or other government spokeshole use the term "neither confirm or deny" and immediately thought "Ah, then! It is the truth!"? There was some movie or TV show several decades back where two government agents were discussing how to get some information disseminated as quickly and broadly as possible:

"I know, let's stamp it 'Ultra Top Secret', the everybody will want to know!"



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