Crashes Loading Save Games I have never experienced one, I am wondering why? Also

Lonny007 · 04-20-17, 04:15 PM

Hello, still using a older Dell Gaming Laptop as my main computer i do everything on for over 10 years has XP Pro, been playing SH3 for a long time too (many years) and always play campaigns and the VII Sub and i have never experienced this "Crashes Loading Save Game Bug" that i see many others complain about. I dont use any of the big Mods, no commander, just some select individual mods. I am very happy with the way it plays SH3 and my other favorite games like Dangerous Waters and Vietcong and a few others. The only problem is the Laptop will not play Atlantic Fleet properly, so I am thinking of upgrading to a newer Laptop I most likely will keep using XP Pro. Anyhow I would hate to upgrade Laptop and lose my rock solid SH3 game and have this "Crashes Loading Save Game Bug". I am a computer tech savvy person and it makes me wonder about the problem i see many complaining about. is this a operating system bug XP Pro versus Win7, is it a MOD problem, or is it a Computer Hardware problem, Any ideas, is there allot of other users that have never experienced this bug too? Thanks for any info!

bstanko6 · 04-20-17, 04:25 PM

Usually a big mod problem. Sometimes depending on the type of mods you use, they conflict with each other and cause a CTD. you just have to experiment with the mods to see which one works, and which ones do not. Sometimes one mod does not work with another mod, and has nothing to do with the game, and it crashes.

The best advice I have... find your favorite mod configuration and leave it. Never change it unless you really need to. I have several copies of the game on my laptop, with different configurations just to change it up.

THEBERBSTER · 04-20-17, 05:43 PM

Hi Lenny
XP and SH3 are not that far apart regarding their age.
Windows 7 works ok with SH3.
Windows 10 does not like SH3 and should be run in compatibility mode for Windows 7 and then works without further problems.
CTD when loading the game will usually be a compatible OS problem from my experience.
Windows 10 will run SH4 and SH5 without any compatibility necessary.
SH3Commander and other applications are not a problem running on SH3, the important thing is to run these applications as administrators.
SH3 should be used with the 4gb patch.
Peter

Benzin1973 · 04-20-17, 09:23 PM

I too think that those CTDs, crashes on save, etc. problems only apprear when you start adding supermods to the mix.
A while ago i played quite a bit of vanilla sh3 (plus a few minor mods made by me), i could save in port, submerged, in combat, etc. and i never had a CTD.
Add a supermod to the mix, even well known & tested mods like GWX, and now you cant save near ships, you cant save submerged, or near ports. and even with those precautions, CTDs happen sometimes.

Bottom line, dont fear that changing your PC will cause you to have CTDs, as long as you continue to play your semi-vanilla mix, you will be fine. In other words, the reason your game is stable, is because of the lack of mods, not just because of your pc.

cheers!

Lonny007 · 04-22-17, 05:30 AM

Thanks for the replys! Thats what I was thinking too Benzin1973, thanks for the post. I will experiment with what I call my saved perfect install of SH3 on some newer (but still old hehe) faster laptops with XP and report back the results, I am hoping no crashes, should be interesting.

Lonny

Zosimus · 05-13-17, 12:51 PM

I run GWX, and I heard all of that nonsense about crashes on loading saves and steps to avoid it (never save submerged, always be at 1 TC, never have ships nearby), and I ignored all of that. I never had any type of crashing problems.

Until I got the IXD. Then I had crashes all the time.

So I suspect your love for the VII line has saved you from crashes.

Lonny007 · 05-19-17, 05:31 AM

Thank you for the reply, very interesting Zosimus! Sounds like you are on to the real reason of the crashes. Well thankfully i am happy in the VII Subs, i hate unstable games especially where you have time invested like campaign mode and trying for a realistic feeling nothing worse then a crash in a campaign. Thank You again for the reply!

Londog

04-20-17, 04:15 PM	#1
Lonny007 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 132 Downloads: 982 Uploads: 0	Crashes Loading Save Games I have never experienced one, I am wondering why? Also Hello, still using a older Dell Gaming Laptop as my main computer i do everything on for over 10 years has XP Pro, been playing SH3 for a long time too (many years) and always play campaigns and the VII Sub and i have never experienced this "Crashes Loading Save Game Bug" that i see many others complain about. I dont use any of the big Mods, no commander, just some select individual mods. I am very happy with the way it plays SH3 and my other favorite games like Dangerous Waters and Vietcong and a few others. The only problem is the Laptop will not play Atlantic Fleet properly, so I am thinking of upgrading to a newer Laptop I most likely will keep using XP Pro. Anyhow I would hate to upgrade Laptop and lose my rock solid SH3 game and have this "Crashes Loading Save Game Bug". I am a computer tech savvy person and it makes me wonder about the problem i see many complaining about. is this a operating system bug XP Pro versus Win7, is it a MOD problem, or is it a Computer Hardware problem, Any ideas, is there allot of other users that have never experienced this bug too? Thanks for any info!

04-20-17, 04:25 PM	#2
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,130 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	Usually a big mod problem. Sometimes depending on the type of mods you use, they conflict with each other and cause a CTD. you just have to experiment with the mods to see which one works, and which ones do not. Sometimes one mod does not work with another mod, and has nothing to do with the game, and it crashes. The best advice I have... find your favorite mod configuration and leave it. Never change it unless you really need to. I have several copies of the game on my laptop, with different configurations just to change it up. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] BSTANKO6'S SH5 NAVAL ACADEMY http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPbe...W2NArCA/videos DISCORD https://discord.gg/6tFeTSUmVc

04-20-17, 05:43 PM	#3
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Hi Lenny XP and SH3 are not that far apart regarding their age. Windows 7 works ok with SH3. Windows 10 does not like SH3 and should be run in compatibility mode for Windows 7 and then works without further problems. CTD when loading the game will usually be a compatible OS problem from my experience. Windows 10 will run SH4 and SH5 without any compatibility necessary. SH3Commander and other applications are not a problem running on SH3, the important thing is to run these applications as administrators. SH3 should be used with the 4gb patch. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

04-20-17, 09:23 PM	#4
Benzin1973 Engineer Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 217 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	I too think that those CTDs, crashes on save, etc. problems only apprear when you start adding supermods to the mix. A while ago i played quite a bit of vanilla sh3 (plus a few minor mods made by me), i could save in port, submerged, in combat, etc. and i never had a CTD. Add a supermod to the mix, even well known & tested mods like GWX, and now you cant save near ships, you cant save submerged, or near ports. and even with those precautions, CTDs happen sometimes. Bottom line, dont fear that changing your PC will cause you to have CTDs, as long as you continue to play your semi-vanilla mix, you will be fine. In other words, the reason your game is stable, is because of the lack of mods, not just because of your pc. cheers!

04-22-17, 05:30 AM	#5
Lonny007 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 132 Downloads: 982 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the replys! Thats what I was thinking too Benzin1973, thanks for the post. I will experiment with what I call my saved perfect install of SH3 on some newer (but still old hehe) faster laptops with XP and report back the results, I am hoping no crashes, should be interesting. Lonny

05-13-17, 12:51 PM	#6
Zosimus XO Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Chorrillos, Lima, Peru Posts: 401 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I run GWX, and I heard all of that nonsense about crashes on loading saves and steps to avoid it (never save submerged, always be at 1 TC, never have ships nearby), and I ignored all of that. I never had any type of crashing problems. Until I got the IXD. Then I had crashes all the time. So I suspect your love for the VII line has saved you from crashes.

05-19-17, 05:31 AM	#7
Lonny007 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 132 Downloads: 982 Uploads: 0	Thank you for the reply, very interesting Zosimus! Sounds like you are on to the real reason of the crashes. Well thankfully i am happy in the VII Subs, i hate unstable games especially where you have time invested like campaign mode and trying for a realistic feeling nothing worse then a crash in a campaign. Thank You again for the reply! Londog