The Future of Money: None

[Castout]

Many people like me huh? Yet you don't even know me but claimed to have known me? One ignorant statement after another. Did I bruise your ego?
I never claimed about being ego-less. In fact, I wrote that it is impossible to annihilate the ego except in dreamless sleep or deep meditation where one forgets one's ego and time.

Wasn't it you who mentioned about egoless spirituality?

No, I didn't know that poem. It's beautiful.

Sorry for being rudely open? You have from a long time ago near the beginning tof this thread and well before...Don't be sorry, you're not sorry. I'm just reflecting your attitude here. You are not sorry and I'm not sorry...Well, I'm sorry for you but I'm not sorry for whatever I wrote here. You have no respect for me and I don't have any respect for you. So, the feeling is mutual although I don't share your condescending attitude. I don't desire the respect of anyone I have no respect for. So, no sorry is ever needed.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Castout

Many people like me huh? Yet you don't even know me but claimed to have known me? One ignorant statement after another. Did I bruise your ego?
I never claimed about being ego-less. In fact, I wrote that it is impossible to annihilate the ego except in dreamless sleep or deep meditation where one forgets one's ego and time.

Many people like you I have known who did the same thign like you: endlessly trying to cionvnce others how enlighted/satori-satisfied/transcended they are, ofteh in a bid to be accepted as kind of an authority on spiritual things - yes, many people I learnt like this, and you absolutely remind me of many of these. Some were students of mine, some where clients in other contexts, some were peope with whom i studied at university.

No, I didn't know that poem. It's beautiful.

No? Its the very first part of the Tao Te King, reworded in my own (German) words. I have many German and English translations, and millions, literally, are available via the internet, I happened to not really have liked any of these from A to Z, some things all of them seem to do wrong here and there, so I did it again and did it up to my taste. Chinese cannot be easily translated lineraly like French into English. Its a very different thing. I had help by a sineologist, of course.

Sorry for being rudely open? You have from a long time ago near the beginning tof this thread and well before...Don't be sorry, you're not sorry. I'm just reflecting your attitude here. You are not sorry and I'm not sorry...Well, I'm sorry for you but I'm not sorry for whatever I wrote here. You have no respect for me and I don't have any respect for you. So, the feeling is mutual although I don't share your condescending attitude. I don't desire the respect of anyone I have no respect for. So, no sorry is ever needed.

You were preaching, both on the economic argument, and on your transcendence thing. Sorry man, if somebody so stubbornly insists on himself being transcended, this is best evidence that he is not, and if he claims he can prove it under laboratory conditions, mistaking the monitoring of physiological variables with transcendence, this revelas a seriosu lack of understanding for the rules of scientifc work and interpretation, and experimental methodology.

For somebody claiming he transcended himself, you simply are too eager to make people believe you and applaude your deep insight and authority on things. I can assure you as a former psychologist: dont worry your ego, its strong and steaming with power. But ego and transcendence are mutually exclusive. Because transcendence means much more than altering physiological variables under lab conditions, nor do these "prove" anything more than just what they are: a display of altering physiological variables, the rest is just subjective interpretation, hear-say, wishful thinking at times. Maslow btw had little illusions about this, he would not agree with some of the claims you have made in here. Thats why it is so hard for science to actually prove "spiritualty"-related things and claims and observations. I have serious doubts that it can be done, but I still believe that it should be tried, religion must be an object of scientific examination, due to the enormous power it has over people and due to the poltical authority that is claimed on its grounds - if something has so much power to influence your life for the good or worse, you better have a very very very sharp look at it and leading it on a very short line.

Not favouring the noble,

And people do have no envy.
Not calling possessions a precious,
And people do have no greed.
Not holding what is desired in high esteem,
And people’s hearts stay unattached.

Therefore the wise man:
What people need, he gives.
What people desire, he refuses.
When people’s desires dwindle,
Their true inner strength appears.
Resting with a contented heart
Leaves intelligence innocent.
The deed is well-done,
When it’s wisdom has no ambition.
Acting without ambition,
And all good is caused all by itself

Too many too strong ambitions at your end, buddy.

[Rockin Robbins]

If one were transcendent, he would not espouse an idea which necessarily would result in murdering billions of people, condemning them to life without reliable food supply, without medical care, without decent swelling places, without human rights. The dead would be the fortunate ones. That's a transcendent quote from Robert Lewis Stephenson's Treasure Island.

Therefore you are a dangerous poseur, if anyone were foolish enough to be convinced by you, which is unlikely. It's not even necessary to disagree with you. Your own rants discredit your message, making actual disagreement unnecessary. The worst thing for you would be for a couple of people to encourage you and agree with you. You would convince everyone you're off the reservation then. Skybird and I are actually doing you a favor by exposing flaws in your reasoning.

Just like a nation's first obligation is the safety of its people, the individual's first obligation is to act in his own self-interest. You're not.

[Castout]

@Skybird

Eager? another ignorant statement born out of prejudice...I don't even bother to read the rest.
I see you're living in a fantasy land of your mind.

Judging by how you write stuff out of prejudices, you are exhibiting psychopathic traits. No educated man can write that BS and call it an honest opinion.

Eager how? I was merely stating what I know.

Originally Posted by Castout

I see you're living in a fantasy land of your mind.

Damn, someone's reflecting Hardcore, lol.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

If one were transcendent, he would not espouse an idea which necessarily would result in murdering billions of people, condemning them to life without reliable food supply, without medical care, without decent swelling places, without human rights. The dead would be the fortunate ones. That's a transcendent quote from Robert Lewis Stephenson's Treasure Island.

Therefore you are a dangerous poseur, if anyone were foolish enough to be convinced by you, which is unlikely. It's not even necessary to disagree with you. Your own rants discredit your message, making actual disagreement unnecessary. The worst thing for you would be for a couple of people to encourage you and agree with you. You would convince everyone you're off the reservation then. Skybird and I are actually doing you a favor by exposing flaws in your reasoning.

Just like a nation's first obligation is the safety of its people, the individual's first obligation is to act in his own self-interest. You're not.

My intention was to open this for a healthy discussion but instead most people are hostile. I guess many here just can't have a healthy exchange of ideas.

I espouse the murdering of billions? without human rights, medical care, reliable food supply?

And you talk about the flaws in my arguments. I was merely presenting an idea and to have exchanges of ideas.

You guys need to grow up.

Therefore you are a dangerous poseur, if anyone were foolish enough to be convinced by you, which is unlikely.

That statement is contradictory.....First you mention I am a dangerous poseur then you say it is unlikely for anyone to be convinced by me.
So what is so dangerous about me again?

If I were to say to the world: People, We need to abolish our technological advancement and live purely out of nature, would I be dangerous? Unlikely as it doesn't make sense to abandon technological advancement. The application could be aimed for more sustainability but certainly not abandonment.

You write for just the sake to argue? Like little spoiled children because you're not making any sense. Either you're dishonest or just plain stupid. Your pick.

[GT182]

Nothing is free. Money might not be in dollars and cents per say, but money will still be needed in one form or another. Even in the future, nothing will be free.

[Castout]

I'm sure Nipplespanner doing his best with his overtly rude remarks, all uncalled for.

I'm only posting some posts on transcendence because I'm passionate about the subject and I saw some of Skybird's posts which I do not agree with. I'm not eager to convince anyone that I'm transcendent because that benefits me nothing. But I'm passionate to share my knowledge in the hope of awakening as many people as possible or at least planting a seed which made them question their belief in reality.
I'm active on my Facebook with regard to the topic and have found several people who are genuinely awakened.

Back to the old days where I'm ganged up for no apparent reason. Probably to kick me out of active participation in the forums.

If you see my posts from the beginning I had been nothing but a gentleman until people somehow without apparent reasons became hostile.

Perhaps my signature conjures up a very negative impression to them. But the person you thought of in your heads about me doesn't exist. It's a sad sad world we live in today. People get very emotional even when no ill-will is intended.

Humanity is not far from the end, I suppose, judging by how people respond to this innocent thread meant to encourage a healthy exchange of ideas and opinions. Instead, people attack another's opinion without stating the why.