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03-25-17, 08:41 AM | #181 | |
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- either do not have evidence regarding attibution, only conclusions (such as joint statements) - or say that the agencies investigating got their evidence from private company hired by the DNC (recent hearings) But then I am salty/paranoid of everything I did not see with my two eyes. To be honest, after the year-zero leaks I think that CIA/NSA hack into German elections is about as if not more likely.
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03-25-17, 09:42 AM | #182 |
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As an honest full disclosure of my personal views and thus the narrative I present here. There are several parts to it.
First of all I believe that an entity is not guilty unless proven to as a fact (with due process and such). Thus in this way it is irrelevant as to if the crime was or was not commited, only if it was proven to have been commited. Secondly I do understand the relevant established views on this broad topic and form my personal opinion on the materials I have seen (note the difference between opinions and facts). In my personal view what is happening is projection, projection of capabilities and intent. As is it apparent from open western materials (such as the recent leaks) the US system is a proffesional, well organised, well controlled instrument. This is projected onto Russian state affiliated actors (where Russian actors are indeed reponsible, as cyber attribution is more or less impossible), in that they are well organised and well controlled and thus a non authorised action is unlikely. To me it appears that the contrary is closer to reality - that Russian actors exist in a quasi-feudal relationship with their individual benefactors in the relevant LE, which causes some embaracing conflicts (such as the recent arrest of the FSB officer who was running "Shaltai-Boltai" group, responsible for leaking Medvedev's emails). Thus even if an attack can be attributed to a specific actor, affiliated with the Russian state, it doesnt mean that Russian state as an institution, or the Russian NCA authorised or were even aware of such attacks.
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03-25-17, 01:58 PM | #183 |
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True. I think after the Stuxnet attack staged by Israel and the US all think that all is possible, without having real intelligence or evidence.
On the other hand if the possibility exists it is most likely that this kind of cyber war is being used, by all. Just logical deduction.
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03-26-17, 07:21 AM | #184 |
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03-26-17, 03:00 PM | #185 |
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A bit surprisingly the Merkel party won almost 6% to their last result, while the SPD lost 1 or 2 points. Greens are out, AfD stays in.
http://www.dw.com/en/saarland-state-...ear/a-38125722 And this is the so-called "honest" result, which calculates the non-voters ("Nichtwähler", in grey) into the official final results: Before the national elections in some months, there will come state parliamentary elections in Schleswig-Holstein and Northrhine-Westphalia.
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03-27-17, 04:00 PM | #186 |
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Not politics, but still an odd curiosity of history:
http://www.dw.com/en/125-years-of-ma...any/a-16188583 I heard some foreign politicians would like to have a label "Made not in Germany"
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03-27-17, 04:21 PM | #187 |
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Typical....copying us Brits again
Good choice though
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04-02-17, 03:06 PM | #188 |
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"The act aimed to ensure that all foreign products - which could potentially threaten the success of British merchandise - were branded with a label. It was an attempt to prompt British buyers to "buy British." Each trading nation that wanted to do business in Great Britain had to label its products with their country of origin."
That went really well, did it? OT Did someone recently spot Oberon? Did not read anything from him lately Hope all is well.
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04-02-17, 03:44 PM | #189 |
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04-03-17, 04:47 PM | #190 |
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Nothing from him since 29th March on FB
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04-03-17, 04:53 PM | #191 |
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http://www.dw.com/en/new-book-reveal...sis/a-38268542
I mentioned it before. However, I pick another reading next, in some days the German translation of Jason Brennan: Against Democracy is released in Germany. I expect to agree with his analysis and diagnosis, but I am wondering whether he has a more realisticc, more convincing alternative model to offer than Hans-Herrmann Hoppe (who also filed in the correct analysis and diagnosis, but fell victim a bit to naivety with the alternative he was offering).
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04-03-17, 11:28 PM | #192 |
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04-11-17, 03:32 PM | #193 |
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04-12-17, 05:30 AM | #194 |
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This is why we (tapping own shoulder) are the shining example of the whole world, and all have to follow us on our way to .. to .. whatever
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04-12-17, 06:12 AM | #195 |
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^Nothing compares to the Berlin airport...
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