Anti-dhimmitude from an Australian cardinal: full score

Skybird · 05-09-06, 07:39 AM

Your demand that I do not bring you personally into play is fair enough. Where I did, I apologize for that. At lewast I did not in an aggressive tone towards you personally.

Where you claim you get deep knowledge on life and meaning (if that is what you meant) by reading the Quran, I leave you alone on that. Your practicing leaves me completely unimpressed, like I am not impressed by Tibetan buddhists spending all their life to approach a far away temple on knees and doing some hundred thousands bows towards it or some Buddhist idol. That is no living spirituality, that is frozen cult only. I came to the conclusion that the Quran is designed to make people stop looking for answers outside the Quran, so what you would call a virtue, is a very severe handicap in my eyes. It is the reason why historically Isdlamic socieites are lacking so much behind and are suffering from a standstill since many centuries.

The extreme intolerance and hostility of Islam towards anything that is not itself is historical fact, both in history and present. What you believe to see good and wonderful in it is your personal thing only. What historical analysis, and statistcs are able to proove beyond belief and hear-say, is something very different. You once answered a question of mine (why you converted) that you dealt a lot with the studying of political violaqnce and because of that converted to Islam. My first thought to that was "this guy is queer". Because Islam's ideology is a prime example for political violance and terror.

And yes, I do claim to have a general overview over the Koran when having red maybe one third of it (and it was oh so repetitive), and having red several in-depth academical analysis about it, and Hadith as well. At some point I had to realize that I could not gain any more understanding by continue to limit myself to reading the koran alone. One needs to go beyond it, if one wants to see it in a total picture. Sticking to it means limitations only. You can't see your house if you don't leave the room.

Can't help it, but we stand on different sides. You defend what I fight against. But your presence will not make me stop critizising and attacking it. Because it is my home and my country and my culture at stake, not the one that you claim to have choosen for yourself. I also sometimes wonder if you really were aware of the dimension of the step you have taken. Maybe there will come a time when you see yourself unable to try to be a travellewr between both worlds any longer. OK, last time that I personally adressed you.

Cornflakes... brrr... hate that stuff. Fresh corn tastes so much better and is so much more fun to bite than this factory stuff.

05-09-06, 07:39 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,632 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Your demand that I do not bring you personally into play is fair enough. Where I did, I apologize for that. At lewast I did not in an aggressive tone towards you personally. Where you claim you get deep knowledge on life and meaning (if that is what you meant) by reading the Quran, I leave you alone on that. Your practicing leaves me completely unimpressed, like I am not impressed by Tibetan buddhists spending all their life to approach a far away temple on knees and doing some hundred thousands bows towards it or some Buddhist idol. That is no living spirituality, that is frozen cult only. I came to the conclusion that the Quran is designed to make people stop looking for answers outside the Quran, so what you would call a virtue, is a very severe handicap in my eyes. It is the reason why historically Isdlamic socieites are lacking so much behind and are suffering from a standstill since many centuries. The extreme intolerance and hostility of Islam towards anything that is not itself is historical fact, both in history and present. What you believe to see good and wonderful in it is your personal thing only. What historical analysis, and statistcs are able to proove beyond belief and hear-say, is something very different. You once answered a question of mine (why you converted) that you dealt a lot with the studying of political violaqnce and because of that converted to Islam. My first thought to that was "this guy is queer". Because Islam's ideology is a prime example for political violance and terror. And yes, I do claim to have a general overview over the Koran when having red maybe one third of it (and it was oh so repetitive), and having red several in-depth academical analysis about it, and Hadith as well. At some point I had to realize that I could not gain any more understanding by continue to limit myself to reading the koran alone. One needs to go beyond it, if one wants to see it in a total picture. Sticking to it means limitations only. You can't see your house if you don't leave the room. Can't help it, but we stand on different sides. You defend what I fight against. But your presence will not make me stop critizising and attacking it. Because it is my home and my country and my culture at stake, not the one that you claim to have choosen for yourself. I also sometimes wonder if you really were aware of the dimension of the step you have taken. Maybe there will come a time when you see yourself unable to try to be a travellewr between both worlds any longer. OK, last time that I personally adressed you. Cornflakes... brrr... hate that stuff. Fresh corn tastes so much better and is so much more fun to bite than this factory stuff. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.