Type VIIC Emblems not showing up

Aktungbby · 03-11-17, 01:26 PM

OH NICE!

<luv the 'cutter rig' two jibs!

'Mine' is my neighbor's heavily refurbished (new sails, rudder, Teak-work and winches ) 25' Catalina, built in '78. At age 66 I'm 'the kid' on the boat so I'm essentially the crew and the really good looking one too-obviously!

I prefer not to own, as my home in earthquake country is wor$e than a boat: new kitchen, furnace, and the waterheater this year alone!

. Fortunately my cousin manages a boat yard in nearby Richmond so the haulout/hull repaint will be at my family rate. Our other crew(71) a true man-of-the-sea lives on his Hunter(25 years) in our marina and the Captain(70), my neighbor, and I grew up in MN and Michigan sailing on Lake Superior, lesser lakes (I taught sailing in '69 at a Y camp) and Lake Michigan. We sail every week in the narrow ship-channel Carquinez Strait off the Napa River/Mare Island in the north San Francisco Bay: winds at 25 knots and swells at 4' occasionally; tides with the current river flow/flood closely monitored generally add 6 knots either way. A real workout for a 15 HP Nisson outboard! The roller 150% jib is a godsend for single-handing! ...while I attend to more... 'important duties'! 'chief steward'>

our old liveaboard(grog-ration cup in hand) has done a TransPac to Hawaii and Mexico and knows all! He's the starboard 'grinder' whilst I man the portside on our new

$700!! jib

winches when happily asea!

Andrewsdad · 03-11-17, 02:18 PM

Salute, Aktungbby!!!

My brother is one of the sailing instructors at Tradewinds Sailing Club in Richmond. Perhaps you have passed in the bay !!!

AD

Aktungbby · 03-11-17, 02:36 PM

^AYE that! I only enter the 'iron triangle' of Richmond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Triangle,_Richmond,_California heavily armed. Three banks along MacDonald Ave occasionally 'require my attention'. But if your brother manned a booth at any of the boat shows at Jackson Square over the last four years, I probably met him already! I already have my ticket for April's show!.

My cousin, a hobie-cat racer of national renown-knows the rule book by heart-sold boats at one of the Marinas at Richmond's safer west-end and my cousin kayaks daily from her 41' Ketch Kulani (which I've helped paint the bottom) to her marina job. Her hubby has his captains' Federal papers a convenience when licensing their old boat.

THEBERBSTER · 03-11-17, 02:49 PM

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Zander42 · 03-16-17, 10:24 PM

Thanks for the welcome.

I probably will install LSH3 2015 at some point. Hesitant to do so right now since I'm in the a career. I don't play SH3 all the time, so it's taking me a looong time to get through a career. Started this one in 2014. Trying to play a long career, spanning the whole war. Just moved from a Type IIA to the VIIC in August, 1940. That's when I noticed the emblem not showing up on the conning tower.

Zander42 · 03-24-17, 09:37 PM

Updating the thread just in case any one else has this problem (stated in the OP). This isn't likely since it seems to have something to do with LSH3 5.0, but here's a brief summary of what I found.

It appears that there was some sort of conflict between the file group 'Turm7c_5_hd.xxx' and how ever the game places emblems on the turm.

To find this out, I moved all of the Turm7c_x files and started the game. With this modification the appropriate emblem was visible in game. I then added back in each file group Turm7c_1x then started the game. Emblem still visible, then 7c_2, etc. Up until I added back in Turm7c_5_hd.x. When I did this the emblem dissapeared again. Removing '5' and adding in '6, 7, and, 8' also yielded a configuration where the emblem was visible.

So, something is going on with one of the Turm7c_5 files that is keeping the emblems from showing up in LSH3 5.0 (and 5.1, no new Turm files are installed with 5.1).

I know that Turm7c_5_hd.x is the turm for a /41 controlled by AI. Because of this, I'm not sure what would happen if one of those boats happened by while the appropriate turm files were missing. Might a crash potential.

It is possible that the issue was caused by something that I tweaked somewhere along the line. When I uninstalled LSH3 5.0 (back to vanilla) I got consistent CTD at the initial start up screen. I did the re-install dance (Thank you BL!TZKR!EG and THEBERBSTER for the guides, big help), and on a fresh install, the emblems showed up normally. So, it could be a conflict within LSH3 5.0 or something I did.

In any case, I figured with a fresh install, I'd give LSH3 2015 + H.Sie's mods a try and see if I could get my existing career (that started in 2014 with 5.1) to work with them.

Turns out it wasn't too hard. Had to do a little bit of a dance to make it work. The indexes for the flotillas are changed so I had to tweak the numbers in the career and career_0 files, but then every thing seemed fine. The emblems are showing up normally as well.

-Cheers,

z

03-11-17, 01:26 PM	#1
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,042 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	OH NICE! <luv the 'cutter rig' two jibs!'Mine' is my neighbor's heavily refurbished (new sails, rudder, Teak-work and winches ) 25' Catalina, built in '78. At age 66 I'm 'the kid' on the boat so I'm essentially the crew and the really good looking one too-obviously! I prefer not to own, as my home in earthquake country is wor$e than a boat: new kitchen, furnace, and the waterheater this year alone!. Fortunately my cousin manages a boat yard in nearby Richmond so the haulout/hull repaint will be at my family rate. Our other crew(71) a true man-of-the-sea lives on his Hunter(25 years) in our marina and the Captain(70), my neighbor, and I grew up in MN and Michigan sailing on Lake Superior, lesser lakes (I taught sailing in '69 at a Y camp) and Lake Michigan. We sail every week in the narrow ship-channel Carquinez Strait off the Napa River/Mare Island in the north San Francisco Bay: winds at 25 knots and swells at 4' occasionally; tides with the current river flow/flood closely monitored generally add 6 knots either way. A real workout for a 15 HP Nisson outboard! The roller 150% jib is a godsend for single-handing! ...while I attend to more... 'important duties'! 'chief steward'> our old liveaboard(grog-ration cup in hand) has done a TransPac to Hawaii and Mexico and knows all! He's the starboard 'grinder' whilst I man the portside on our new $700!! jib winches when happily asea! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

03-11-17, 02:36 PM	#3
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,042 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	^AYE that! I only enter the 'iron triangle' of Richmond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Triangle,_Richmond,_California heavily armed. Three banks along MacDonald Ave occasionally 'require my attention'. But if your brother manned a booth at any of the boat shows at Jackson Square over the last four years, I probably met him already! I already have my ticket for April's show!.My cousin, a hobie-cat racer of national renown-knows the rule book by heart-sold boats at one of the Marinas at Richmond's safer west-end and my cousin kayaks daily from her 41' Ketch Kulani (which I've helped paint the bottom) to her marina job. Her hubby has his captains' Federal papers a convenience when licensing their old boat. __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

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03-11-17, 02:18 PM	#2
Andrewsdad Machinist's Mate Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 130 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Salute, Aktungbby!!! My brother is one of the sailing instructors at Tradewinds Sailing Club in Richmond. Perhaps you have passed in the bay !!! AD

03-16-17, 10:24 PM	#5
Zander42 Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Milford, CT Posts: 7 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the welcome. I probably will install LSH3 2015 at some point. Hesitant to do so right now since I'm in the a career. I don't play SH3 all the time, so it's taking me a looong time to get through a career. Started this one in 2014. Trying to play a long career, spanning the whole war. Just moved from a Type IIA to the VIIC in August, 1940. That's when I noticed the emblem not showing up on the conning tower.

03-24-17, 09:37 PM	#6
Zander42 Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Milford, CT Posts: 7 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Updating the thread just in case any one else has this problem (stated in the OP). This isn't likely since it seems to have something to do with LSH3 5.0, but here's a brief summary of what I found. It appears that there was some sort of conflict between the file group 'Turm7c_5_hd.xxx' and how ever the game places emblems on the turm. To find this out, I moved all of the Turm7c_x files and started the game. With this modification the appropriate emblem was visible in game. I then added back in each file group Turm7c_1x then started the game. Emblem still visible, then 7c_2, etc. Up until I added back in Turm7c_5_hd.x. When I did this the emblem dissapeared again. Removing '5' and adding in '6, 7, and, 8' also yielded a configuration where the emblem was visible. So, something is going on with one of the Turm7c_5 files that is keeping the emblems from showing up in LSH3 5.0 (and 5.1, no new Turm files are installed with 5.1). I know that Turm7c_5_hd.x is the turm for a /41 controlled by AI. Because of this, I'm not sure what would happen if one of those boats happened by while the appropriate turm files were missing. Might a crash potential. It is possible that the issue was caused by something that I tweaked somewhere along the line. When I uninstalled LSH3 5.0 (back to vanilla) I got consistent CTD at the initial start up screen. I did the re-install dance (Thank you BL!TZKR!EG and THEBERBSTER for the guides, big help), and on a fresh install, the emblems showed up normally. So, it could be a conflict within LSH3 5.0 or something I did. In any case, I figured with a fresh install, I'd give LSH3 2015 + H.Sie's mods a try and see if I could get my existing career (that started in 2014 with 5.1) to work with them. Turns out it wasn't too hard. Had to do a little bit of a dance to make it work. The indexes for the flotillas are changed so I had to tweak the numbers in the career and career_0 files, but then every thing seemed fine. The emblems are showing up normally as well. -Cheers, z