7 new planets discovered; may be like Earth - Page 2

ikalugin · 02-23-17, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

The fastest thing that's ever been built is the New Horizons space probe which is currently on its way to Pluto, it can travel about 36000 mph, at that speed it would take it about 750,000 earth years to get to these planets, it puts current technology beyond the scope of travelling to the stars me thinks.

An FTL spacecraft is a pipe dream thought up by some hare-brained scientist with too much time on his hands, by the time anyone could work out how to build one of these things the human race will either be dead or they'll be back in the trees where they belong.

With high ISP drives it is possible to make generation ships. "36000 mph" is a useless figure, what you want to know is the delta-v stored onboard.

Commander Wallace · 02-23-17, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

It was fascinating news. Some questions popped up in my head when I read and heard about this discovery

1. Is there life on one or more of these planets ?

2. If yes to number one, what kind of life could it be ?

3. If there is life, is it seen from earthly point of view, intelligent ?

4. If intelligent, how far have they come ? (I know the time it takes for the light to reach us)

Markus

Of course there is intelligent life on them. Spock, Yoda, Chewbacca and the Ewoks came from somewhere, right ?

Seriously, I would think life exists elsewhere in the universe.

Platapus · 02-23-17, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Be interesting to see how long before anyone from this planet pays a visit seeing as how a one-way ticket is 30+ life years.

In all seriousness, I hope we never make it. Intelligent life that evolved independently should continue to evolve independently without the interference from life forms such as ours.

We are crapping up one planet, why infect other planets.

Rockstar · 02-23-17, 09:56 PM

Life on other planets? meh. What about life in another dimension. Presently we see this physical world because we are a part of it. We are tuned to detect particals, everything we use to taste, touch, smell, hear, and to see are partical detectors. What about the those things the science of our time has revealed what if we were tuned to perceive boundary less waves of energy, who or what would we encounter? Perhaps too the world would appear more like a thought than a physical thing.

"It has occured to me lately I must confess with some shock at first to my scientific sensibilities that both questions (the origin of consciousness in humans and of life from non living matter) might be brought into some degree of congruence. This is with the assumption that mind, rather than emerging as a late outgrowth in the evolution of life, has always existed as the matrix, the source and condition of physical reality the stuff of which physical reality is composed is mind-stuff. It ks the mind that has composed a physical universe that breeds life and so eventually evolves creatures that know and create: science, art, and technology making animals. In them the universe begins to know itself. ". George Wald.

nikimcbee · 02-23-17, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

It was fascinating news. Some questions popped up in my head when I read and heard about this discovery

1. Is there life on one or more of these planets ?

2. If yes to number one, what kind of life could it be ?

3. If there is life, is it seen from earthly point of view, intelligent ?

4. If intelligent, how far have they come ? (I know the time it takes for the light to reach us)

Markus

Oberon · 02-23-17, 10:39 PM

We'll be hitting that moral question within the next few centuries when we start colonising Mars, if we find microbial lifeforms on Mars then what do we do? The ultimate goal of human existence on Mars would be to terraform the planet to suit us as much as we will transform ourselves to suit it, but in doing so we will drastically change the environment for these microbes and may even destroy them. It wouldn't be the first time in history that we've done that...and that's not even beginning to factor in cross-planetary contamination, although generally speaking we're pretty good at trying to cut the risk of that down.
Still, whatever might exist in the Trappist system it's not got radio or television before the 1970s.

You know, it's a shame we can't just gather up all the nuclear weapons in the world and put them on an Orion drive ship...would be a much better use for them than blowing each other to smithereens.
Of course, the downside is that an Orion drive ship is the space equivalent of a Volkswagen, so we will probably get fined for emissions breaches.

Oberon · 02-23-17, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

(Someone should really get those guys standing by the massive death laser blast a railing or something...talk about non-OSHE compliant)

dsawan · 02-24-17, 12:10 AM

They might harbor hostiles. Could be nomads wanting to sterilize us. from the nomad probe episode of star trek tos. or the khan noonian singhs.

Kaptlt.Endrass · 02-24-17, 12:32 AM

ALIENS!

Let's be honest, I doubt that any sentient life out there, if it has the capability to get a spaceship in the air and to another planet light-years away, then I'm sure they've reached a point in society where it isn't 'KILL EVERYTHING!'

Who knows, maybe they have their own version of Subsim?

Of course, with our luck, we'd be visited by an extremely intelligent race that has never warred with one another, and they'd come see us and bang their heads on the nearest hard object.

Catfish · 02-24-17, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

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"It has occured to me lately I must confess with some shock at first to my scientific sensibilities that both questions (the origin of consciousness in humans and of life from non living matter) might be brought into some degree of congruence. This is with the assumption that mind, rather than emerging as a late outgrowth in the evolution of life, has always existed as the matrix, the source and condition of physical reality the stuff of which physical reality is composed is mind-stuff. It ks the mind that has composed a physical universe that breeds life and so eventually evolves creatures that know and create: science, art, and technology making animals. In them the universe begins to know itself. ". George Wald.

I must say since Heisenberg's "Unschaerferelation" and the Higgs Bosons you cannot be sure about anything anymore. I mean we can still work of course with Newton's models, but... arrgh

Can we even say we see this, or do we create it by assuming it exists?

https://home.cern/topics/higgs-boson

Raises eyebrow: "Fascinating."

02-23-17, 09:56 PM	#19
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Life on other planets? meh. What about life in another dimension. Presently we see this physical world because we are a part of it. We are tuned to detect particals, everything we use to taste, touch, smell, hear, and to see are partical detectors. What about the those things the science of our time has revealed what if we were tuned to perceive boundary less waves of energy, who or what would we encounter? Perhaps too the world would appear more like a thought than a physical thing. "It has occured to me lately I must confess with some shock at first to my scientific sensibilities that both questions (the origin of consciousness in humans and of life from non living matter) might be brought into some degree of congruence. This is with the assumption that mind, rather than emerging as a late outgrowth in the evolution of life, has always existed as the matrix, the source and condition of physical reality the stuff of which physical reality is composed is mind-stuff. It ks the mind that has composed a physical universe that breeds life and so eventually evolves creatures that know and create: science, art, and technology making animals. In them the universe begins to know itself. ". George Wald. Last edited by Rockstar; 02-23-17 at 10:25 PM.

02-24-17, 12:32 AM	#24
Kaptlt.Endrass Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: No Longer On A Big Grey Floaty Thing Posts: 395 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	ALIENS! Let's be honest, I doubt that any sentient life out there, if it has the capability to get a spaceship in the air and to another planet light-years away, then I'm sure they've reached a point in society where it isn't 'KILL EVERYTHING!' Who knows, maybe they have their own version of Subsim? Of course, with our luck, we'd be visited by an extremely intelligent race that has never warred with one another, and they'd come see us and bang their heads on the nearest hard object. __________________ "That flag and I are twins, born in the same hour from the same womb of destiny. We cannot be parted in life or in death; so long as we float, we shall float together." As much as I dislike it sometimes, I'm a tin can sailor, through and through.

02-23-17, 10:39 PM	#21
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	We'll be hitting that moral question within the next few centuries when we start colonising Mars, if we find microbial lifeforms on Mars then what do we do? The ultimate goal of human existence on Mars would be to terraform the planet to suit us as much as we will transform ourselves to suit it, but in doing so we will drastically change the environment for these microbes and may even destroy them. It wouldn't be the first time in history that we've done that...and that's not even beginning to factor in cross-planetary contamination, although generally speaking we're pretty good at trying to cut the risk of that down. Still, whatever might exist in the Trappist system it's not got radio or television before the 1970s. You know, it's a shame we can't just gather up all the nuclear weapons in the world and put them on an Orion drive ship...would be a much better use for them than blowing each other to smithereens. Of course, the downside is that an Orion drive ship is the space equivalent of a Volkswagen, so we will probably get fined for emissions breaches.

02-24-17, 12:10 AM	#23
dsawan Torpedoman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston. MA Posts: 115 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	They might harbor hostiles. Could be nomads wanting to sterilize us. from the nomad probe episode of star trek tos. or the khan noonian singhs.