US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[MaDef]

time to get back on topic, what did Trump do today that's going to get every one's panties in a bunch?

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Oberon

EDIT: Oh, and how about that Bowling Green massacre then? Gun violence must be so bad over there that they didn't even bother reporting it!

is that like the anti-Trumpers who are convinced he is a Russian agent?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Foriegners don't have the same rights as American citizens.

Many lose sight of that.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by MaDef

time to get back on topic, what did Trump do today that's going to get every one's panties in a bunch?

still be President..

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by MaDef

time to get back on topic, what did Trump do today that's going to get every one's panties in a bunch?

Trump used 3 lumps of sugar in his coffee instead of 2.

It's early yet. Give it time.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Steve, one last time: He DID do enough already. Saying terrible things, from making false claims purposely, insulting other politicians due to their physical appearance, insulting EVERY SINGLE POW, making the wildest and most absurd racial slurs or talking about his daughter as if he wants to bed her - that is DOING something in my book and I'm sorry you, and others, don't give a damn and give this worthless scum a pass because "muh let's see!".

Okay, I can understand that.

My whole point was and is him, his personality. People like that must not hold any sort of power as they betray everything our modern civilization should be. By accepting catastrophes like him, we commit an act of treason, we betray ourselves and we mark us hypocrites of the worst kind.

I understand that too. As I said, I'm no fan, but he is in office now, and while I can see plenty of reason for concern, and fully support everybody's right to say what they think, I just don't get the visible hate - the rioting, the destruction, and everything else people are doing. The "wait and see" attitude comes from the fact that at this point nothing can be done. If he breaks the rules then Congress can take action. Until then we're stuck with him.

I totally get the hate, obviously.
I do not understand the stupid rioting either and it makes me angry and sad, cause it's only making things worse.

But I do not own all the problems on the world and just now decided not to give a damn anymore. Riots, trump, global killers approaching earth, even more Kardashians... Fine, so be it.

You reap what you sow.

[Sailor Steve]

That's true. Because circumstances prevent me from having anything to do with people in office, I'm more concerned with the people who oppose or support those people at my level. It's a constant running theme in politics that it's always the other guy's fault. If my President succeeds it's in spite of what "they" try to do to him. If he fails it's because "they" kept him from doing his job. While some of that is true it always seems to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. The President doesn't get to make the laws or appropriate the money. Bill Clinton and the Democrats claim credit for "balancing the budget", while Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich gets no mention at all in their version of the story. I'm not supporting Gingrich by any means, just pointing out the problems that have always existed in politics. Nobody wants to own up to anything.

[Dowly]

[yubba]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Obviously photo shopped,, taken in the Obama years,,, and that's what it will look like when the left plays this hand,,, and the caption should read,, ''well son,, socialism does work we are equally poor at least Queen Hillary didn't see prison time'' http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-02-0...nst-trump.html

[Dowly]

[Bilge_Rat]

slow news day so far, so let's deal with this.

Originally Posted by vienna

Trump's handling of the Acting-AG situation shows how politically dense he really is; instead of firing her in a knee-jerk reaction, he should have just let her be and waited the day or so for his own choice to be confirmed; the confirmation would have pretty much easily gone through, there would have been far less of an uproar and he wouldn't have handed his opponent yet another club with which to beat him; of course, such actions would have required maturity, considered thought and a grasp of political strategy, so I guess the outcome was to have been expected...

I don't agree. (surprise, surprise ).

Better to fire her right away, before most are even aware of the story. First, it plays to his base, but more importantly it becomes a one day story.

If he had left her in place, you would have endless stories about democrats and journalists discussing what she should do. She might have continued issuing statements, giving interviews, etc. You would then have stories on the other side about would should be done about her. It then becomes a multi-day story.

As time goes on, I can't help but marvel at the similarities between Trump's approach to handling the duties, obligations and limitations of the Presidency and the approach of another whom he may soon join in the history books:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre



<O>

Again I don't agree. There is no similarity.

Nixon's order to fire the special prosecutor was on the face of it illegal and Richardson had no choice but to refuse.

This is a totally different issue, the immigration ban is legal, both on a Constitutional and statutory basis (whether it is a smart play is another issue). Yates stand was purely political and had no basis in law.

p.s. - Trump is becoming boring, what no daily scandal?!? I protest!! what are we supposed to argue about?

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

p.s. - Trump is becoming boring, what no daily scandal?!? I protest!! what are we supposed to argue about?

President Bannon must be under the weather.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

I totally get the hate, obviously.
I do not understand the stupid rioting either and it makes me angry and sad, cause it's only making things worse.

But I do not own all the problems on the world and just now decided not to give a damn anymore. Riots, trump, global killers approaching earth, even more Kardashians... Fine, so be it.

You reap what you sow.

Sometimes that is the best stance to take. Many time I have stopped watching or reading the news. I was getting depressed.

[Bilge_Rat]

ok, I have a topic, headline on the Washington Post:

Former Norwegian prime minister detained at Dulles Airport for an hour. He visited Iran in 2014.

As Kjell Magne Bondevik was preparing for his visit to the United States for this week’s National Prayer Breakfast, he had reason to believe the trip would be seamless. After all, he is the former prime minister of Norway — a U.S. ally in NATO — and has traveled to and from the U.S. on numerous occasions.

His office contacted the U.S. Embassy in Oslo, and was told his passport and a separate electronic travel authorization would be enough for entry into the country.

But after flying into Dulles International Airport on Tuesday afternoon, he was detained and questioned for about an hour, all because of a passport stamp. His passport — which clearly stated he is the former prime minister of Norway — indicated he had taken a 2014 trip to Iran, where Bondevik said he had attended a human rights conference.

“I was surprised, and I was provoked,” he told WJLA ABC7. “What will the reputation of the U.S. be if this happens not only to me, but also to other international leaders?”

although not mentioned, the tone and leading paragraphs lead you to believe this is all because of Trump's recent travel ban, until, buried deep in the article, you get to this:

Bondevik said his detention was prompted not by President Trump’s recent executive order, but by a policy instated under President Barack Obama, which calls for extra restrictions on some citizens from 38 countries — including Norway — that fall under the United States’ Visa Waiver Program. Under the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015, nationals from these 38 countries who have traveled to or been present in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria or Yemen on or after March 1, 2011, are not permitted to travel under the Visa Waiver Program.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9530fa5f332b

yup, slow news day.