US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Oberon

It's a public relations disaster alright, but that's exactly what this presidency was designed to be from the onset. So, you know, that's how it's going to be...and PM May is probably going to realise that she's hitched her wagon to a toxic personality...but, well, Brexit is gonna Brexit and we need the cash so Erdo, Trump, it doesn't matter who we need to suck up to, we'll do it for the dollar dollar.

Speaking of which, I'm just going to leave The Donald's African American History Month Address here.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politi...history-month/

Originally Posted by Official Proclamation of God Emperor Donaldus I Magnus, Omni Potus, marking African American History Month

THE PRESIDENT: Hello, everybody. These are a lot of my friends, but you have been so helpful. And we did well. The election, it came out really well. Next time we'll triple it up or quadruple it, right? We want to get over 51, right? At least 51. Well, this is Black History Month, so this is our little breakfast, our little get-together. Hi, Lynne, how are you?

MS. PATTON: Hi, how are you?

THE PRESIDENT: Nice to see you. And just a few notes. During this month, we honor the tremendous history of the African Americans throughout our country -- throughout the world, if you really think about it, right? And their story is one of unimaginable sacrifice, hard work and faith in America. I've gotten a real glimpse -- during the campaign, I'd go around with Ben to a lot of different places that I wasn't so familiar with. They're incredible people. And I want to thank Ben Carson, who's going to be heading up HUD. It's a big job, and it's a job that's not only housing, it's mind and spirit, right, Ben? And you understand that. Nobody is going to be better than Ben.
Last month, we celebrated the life of the Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., whose incredible example is unique in American history. You read all about Dr. Martin Luther King a week ago when somebody said I took the statue out of my office, and it turned out that that was fake news. (Laughter.) It was fake news. The statue is cherished. It's one of the favorite things in the -- and we have some good ones. We have Lincoln and we have Jefferson and we have Dr. Martin Luther King, and we have -- but they said the statue, the bust of Dr. Martin Luther King was taken out of the office. And it was never even touched. So I think it was a disgrace, but that's the way the press is. Very unfortunate.
I am very proud now that we have a museum on the National Mall where people can learn about Reverend King, so many other things. Frederick Douglass is an example of somebody who's done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I notice -- Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, and millions more black Americans who made America what it is today. Big impact.I am proud to honor this heritage, and we'll be honoring it more and more. The folks at the table in almost all cases have been great friends and supporters. And Darrell -- I met Darrell when he was defending me on television. (Laughter.) And the people that were on the other side of the argument didn't have a chance, right? And Paris has done an amazing job in a very hostile CNN community. (Laughter.) He's all by himself -- seven people and Paris. So I'll take Paris over the seven. (Laughter.) But I don't watch CNN so I don't get to see you as much as I want to. (Laughter.) I don't like watching fake news.

PARTICIPANT: None of us watch it either anymore.

THE PRESIDENT: But Fox has treated me very nice -- wherever Fox is, thank you.
We're going to need better schools, and we need them soon. We need more jobs, we need better wages -- a lot better wages. We're going to work very hard on the inner city. Ben is going to be doing that big league. It's one of his big things that we're going to be looking at.
We need safer communities, and we're going to do that with law enforcement. We're going to make it safe. We're going to make it much better than it is right now. Right now it's terrible, and I saw you talking about it the other night, Paris, on something else that was really -- you did a fantastic job the other night on a very unrelated show. I'm ready to do my part -- it's the only time I can see him. I'm ready to do my part, and I will say this: We're going to work together. This is a great group. This is a group that's been so special to me. You really helped me a lot. If you remember, I wasn't going to do well with the African American community, and after they heard me speaking and talking about the inner city and lots of other things, we ended up getting -- I won't go into details, but we ended up getting substantially more than other candidates who had run in the past years. And now, we're going to take that to new levels.I want to thank my television star over here. (Laughter.) Omarosa is actually a very nice person. Nobody knows that, but -- (laughter) -- I don't want to destroy her reputation. She is a very good person and she's been helpful right from the beginning of the campaign. And I appreciate it. I really do. Very special.

Very inspiring.

[Catfish]

Takeda you're back!

And this above is really .. nice. Wait and see..
(Or is this a satire, with "God emperor Donaldus Magnus"? But i guess not.)

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Takeda you're back!

And this above is really nice.
Or is this a satire, with "God emperor Donaldus Magnus"?

I'll pop in from time to time to read what those in the Trump bubble have to say.

While I gave the sarcastic header, the text is a word-for-word transcript of the president's African American History Month address. I wish that it was satire. Yes, he spent that time railing against CNN, talking about re-election and it is not entirely certain whether or not he thinks that Frederick Douglass is still alive.

That "speech" reads like a parody from some comedian trying to impersonate trump.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

That "speech" reads like a parody from some comedian trying to impersonate trump.

Right? I wish I could say that it was a Alec Baldwin skit. Nope, that's the real thing.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

That "speech" reads like a parody from some comedian trying to impersonate trump.

I beg to differ, reads more like the opening remarks at a company's annual sales conference.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Yes, MaDef explained it:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=950
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=954

She was already on the list, and would have been exchanged soon. But calling her a traitor is maybe a bit inappropriate. It also seems the constitution is subject to.. interpretation

Publically calling her a traitor IMO was just as inappropriate as Yates telling the public she is going to outright defy the Presidents orders. It was her job as the A.G. to advise the President as to the best course of action to lawfully carry out his policy.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Calling her a traitor IMO just as inappropriate as Yates publically telling her boss she ain't gonna do it. It was her job to advise the President as to the best course of action to lawfully carry out his policy, not to outright publically defy his orders.

On the contrary I find Yates' actions to be heroic; an act of civil disobedience against an executive order of both questionable legality and blatant violation of the spirit of what this nation claims to stand for.

It is also remarkable how trump is able to (ab)use every event to quickly make it all about him again. Considering the touchy topic, it is even more disgusting.

"hey, hey! Next time more votes, ok? What? Negros? Oh right uh awesome people and all that. The best people! And I must know because I am the greatest. Ok thanks folks gotta go, remember to vote republican in 4 years!"

Obama had humility and dignity. He understood when to capture the stage and be the boss, and he knew when to hold the hell back. Trump however.. It's all about him, because he is the center of the universe... -.-

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

It is also remarkable how trump is able to (ab)use every event to quickly make it all about him again. Considering the touchy topic, it is even more disgusting.

"hey, hey! Next time more votes, ok? What? Negros? Oh right uh awesome people and all that. The best people! And I must know because I am the greatest. Ok thanks folks gotta go, remember to vote republican in 4 years!"

Even more, Trump is wildly unpopular. His approval ratings are historically low. The streets are clogged with protesters opposing his policies and actions. Over half the voting public didn't want him there at all. This isn't like running a business where you get to say "my way or the highway". You need some sort of unity, and the onus for this is always on the president. Here today was yet another opportunity to try and win some people over. Instead, he makes some confusing token remarks and then uses it as a platform to attack his enemies.

Obama had humility and dignity. He understood when to capture the stage and be the boss, and he knew when to hold the hell back. Trump however.. It's all about him, because he is the center of the universe... -.-

Obama was a statesman, and exactly the sort of person you want as the face of a nation. I think Obama was great. Reagan was also a real statesman, even though I despised him. Clinton and both Bushes, even Dubbya, knew how to be presidential. Trump has no idea. This is not an intelligent man, nor is he an inspiring one. And those are two qualities that a statesman must have. We're not running a business, but a nation-state.

[August]

This is all just yet more Democrat hysterics over what will eventually be shown to a completely legal and appropriate action that has been used in the past by Presidents from both parties.

I do hope they keep up with these daily temper tantrums so when they loose even more seats in 2018 they will be too far gone to ever recover.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

This is all just yet more Democrat hysterics over what will eventually be shown to a completely legal and appropriate action that has been used in the past by Presidents from both parties.

I do hope they keep up with these daily temper tantrums so when they loose even more seats in 2018 they will be too far gone to ever recover.

You keep telling yourself that.

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

You keep telling yourself that.

Oh he will.
Trump could nuke Russia tight now, August would write it up as "liberal hysteria".
Because when you have no argument, all you can do is to rely on the usual derogatory buzzwords you heard others say. To admit that something might not be quite right? Never, that would mean these damn liberals (who are a borg-like collective, you know), would have had a point. This must not happen, let's just cover eyes 'n ears and call it a day.
And the best part? No matter how much trump will screw up, his drones will simply blame Obama, because that was so very convenient for 8 years - why stop now?

[Platapus]

I think it is quite likely that the Democrats will gain control over at least one of the houses. My guess is the Senate.

Historically mid tour elections don't favour the incumbents when the same party controls the Executive and both houses. Obama found out about that the hard way.

A lot of citizens are distrustful when the same party (even their own) holds all three. The problem the trump will face is the same as the problem Obama faced - -a very fickle and impatient citizenry.

The GOP owns the government at this point. There is nothing standing in their way. Their responsibility. The GOP won't have anyone to blame.. Just like the Democrats had no one to blame the first congressional term of Obama.

The public knows this and expects a tangible benefit in about 18 months. If the public does not get what they want, they will turn on the Congress like a rabid dog.

Not having anyone else to blame is a politician's nightmare.

Of course, there is nothing to prevent the Democrats from poisoning their image.....which they seem to be eager to do.

In my opinion, the Republicans did not win the last election, the Democrats lost it (by putting up probably the only candidate possible that could lose to a buffoon like Trump). The Republicans may not win the mid-terms but the Democrats can certainly lose them if they don't pull their heads out of their butt and start thinking strategically.

Is there truly a lack of mature adults in politics these days????

Or is the movie Idiocracy becoming a documentary?

Which party will be the first to adopt "we have electrolytes" as their party slogan?

I predict that this country, and perhaps the world will suffer a critical shortage of "Facepalms".

[Oberon]