[REL] Nippelspanner's Editor Examples

01-28-17, 08:43 PM

To help those new to the DW editor, I decided to start a little mission series called Editor Examples (EDEX) with short scenarios to showcase how to create certain events to spice up missions.
Since DW doesn't offer much in terms of immersion, the mission designer has to do a lot of work to bypass the dull nature of this otherwise sophisticated simulation.

If the EDEX concept proves useful to you, feel free to make requests, no matter if for simple or more complicated.
No guarantee that I will be able to do it though.

Available EDEX scenarios
EDEX #01 - SLBM Test Launch
EDEX #02 - Territorial Waters
EDEX #03 - Rules of Engagement

p7p8 · 01-28-17, 09:23 PM

This is very good idea.
Your mission works correct

I have one question:
why you use "aggregate" activation for trigger 4?

P.S. My "beep" sound for messages is from game sounds: touch3.wav

01-28-17, 10:23 PM

Thanks for confirmation that it works!

Aggregate works reliant and is easy to set up. Alternatively one could use "completed trigger" under doctrine language, I think it is the same principle.

I don't like the touch 3 sound - it startles me every time, so I picked something else. xD

p7p8 · 04-24-17, 03:28 PM

Some time ago I have made something similar to EDEX #3

FORBIDEN SIZZLER LAUNCH

This mission haven't punishment because it is example mainly for MP games. After launching sizzlers all players have information (several times) who broke rules. Of course punishment can be add and repeating for message can be turn off but this is only for showing how to do something.

I have task for you if you likes editor challenges

Our community have some solutions for removing playable (but without human player) platforms from MP game. We need simple solution for removing any kind of platforms:
- Sub
- Surf
- Helo
- Airplane

Main problem is, when you host game, some "mechanism" won't work properly. For example docrtine "Is Current Controllable" is useless in MP missions.

Stewy1 · 04-24-17, 05:28 PM

Hey Nip,

I'm keen to do some 'Holystone' style missions where a boomer has to be tracked for a continuous period of time.

How do you do it so that, say, you have to get a boomer on your spherical array and track it for, say, 2 hours, for the mission to be a success.

If you lose contact, the timer resets and you have to start again.

Thanks mate,
Stew

04-24-17, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p7p8

I have task for you if you likes editor challenges

Our community have some solutions for removing playable (but without human player) platforms from MP game. We need simple solution for removing any kind of platforms:
- Sub
- Surf
- Helo
- Airplane

Main problem is, when you host game, some "mechanism" won't work properly. For example docrtine "Is Current Controllable" is useless in MP missions.

Not 100% sure I understand you correctly, can you elaborate a little for the slower ones among us, err, me?

Also, as soon as it comes to MP: I'm kinda out - no experience there, not with the editor/it's restrictions at least.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewy1

Hey Nip,

I'm keen to do some 'Holystone' style missions where a boomer has to be tracked for a continuous period of time.

How do you do it so that, say, you have to get a boomer on your spherical array and track it for, say, 2 hours, for the mission to be a success.

If you lose contact, the timer resets and you have to start again.

Thanks mate,
Stew

Now that's something I definitely wanted to do someday - but so far didn't succeed to do, at least not to 100%.

AFAIK, what you ask for is possible, but it would require some more extensive use of triggers/scripts, I presume.
Out of my head, I do not see why it should not be possible, though.
I'm going to try to figure something out, it would be a great EDEX indeed!

PS: had to scratch my head a few times until Holy Stone rang a bell, haha.

p7p8 · 04-25-17, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewy1

you have to get a boomer on your spherical array and track it for, say, 2 hours, for the mission to be a success.

Oh no! Please don't do that extremely boring mission

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Why would a Captain be required to not lose contact at all[!], as long as he re-establishes contact in case of losing a track?
"Captain, you lost contact to the track on all sensors for 3 seconds - your mission failed."
"But I re-established contact immediately, it's right here on my screen!"
"No - RTB - you failed! Reasons! Hurr!"
It doesn't really make much sense.

Yeah, you have good point. When I track sub, sometimes i need to change direction for better TMA work. That means my tracking is not continuous.

In my opinion in this kind of mission, trigger should check range between you and target. You can do some test what is optimal maximum range for each sensor for tracking specific SSBN.
In this case "IsDetectionHeldNow trigger should work fine.

I remember one Bill Nichols mission from RSR campaign have similar task.

04-25-17, 01:30 PM

Yes, Bill Nichols worked often with range-related triggers, I assume for that exact reason. Gotta, again, learn from the master, it seems.
(I consider him/his work, the best ever for DW so far.)

01-28-17, 08:43 PM	#1
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Nippelspanner's Editor Examples To help those new to the DW editor, I decided to start a little mission series called Editor Examples (EDEX) with short scenarios to showcase how to create certain events to spice up missions. Since DW doesn't offer much in terms of immersion, the mission designer has to do a lot of work to bypass the dull nature of this otherwise sophisticated simulation. If the EDEX concept proves useful to you, feel free to make requests, no matter if for simple or more complicated. No guarantee that I will be able to do it though. Available EDEX scenarios EDEX #01 - SLBM Test Launch EDEX #02 - Territorial Waters EDEX #03 - Rules of Engagement Last edited by Nippelspanner; 04-27-17 at 10:21 AM.

04-24-17, 03:28 PM	#4
p7p8 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 742 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 6	Some time ago I have made something similar to EDEX #3 FORBIDEN SIZZLER LAUNCH VERSION 3 OWNALLIANCE 0 DIFFICULTY 1 TOTALNUMSIDES 1 NUMDRIVEABLES 1 MONTH 1 WORLDGRID 2 LATLONG 34.209137 -34.411915 ; SEASTATE 3 MDR 0 0 0 BOTTOMTYPE 0 TIMEOFDAY 12 WEATHER 0 CLOUDHEIGHT 4500 SSP 0 MISSIONTITLE BEGINTEXT FORBIDEN SIZZLER LAUNCH ENDTEXT ENTITY 1530 SUBENTITY HULLID 2 ALLIANCE 0 POS 770905.875000 563532.312500 -150 POINTS 750 COURSE 337 SPEED 5 PROB 100 DRIVEABLE 1 PLAYERTASKING BEGINTEXT ALL SS-N-27 (Sizzler) ARE FORBIDEN (ASW, ASM, LAM) ENDTEXT UNIQUENAME "SSN 317" COMMSINTERVAL 0.000000 TACTIC BARRIER WAYPOINT 770179.875000 565254.687500 -426 5 -1 0.000000 AIRLOADOUT 251 AIRCRAFT 1722 1 Alert5 0 : Alert15 1 : 0 Alert30 0 : END GOAL 771204.000000 563633.500000 0.050000 BEGIN GOALNAME "SS-N-27 ASM detected" GOALID 1 PARENTGOALID -1 GOALTYPE 1 TRIGGERTYPE 1 REFIRETIME 1.000000 STARTTIME 0 ENDTIME 0 POINTS 100 MAXSPEED -1 MINDEPTH -1.000000 MAXDEPTH -1.000000 RETURNTOBASE 0 AUDIO touch3.wav ATTACHEDTARGETOBJ 2 OBJTOPROSECUTEENT 1536 MESSAGETYPEID 1 MESSAGETOHULLID -2 BEGINTEXT Forbiden SS-N-27 ASM launch detected on Akula SSN 317 Pantera! ENDTEXT END GOAL 771201.937500 563538.937500 0.050000 BEGIN GOALNAME "SS-N-27 ASW detected" GOALID 2 PARENTGOALID -1 GOALTYPE 1 TRIGGERTYPE 1 REFIRETIME 1.000000 STARTTIME 0 ENDTIME 0 POINTS 100 MAXSPEED -1 MINDEPTH -1.000000 MAXDEPTH -1.000000 RETURNTOBASE 0 AUDIO touch3.wav ATTACHEDTARGETOBJ 2 OBJTOPROSECUTEENT 1537 MESSAGETYPEID 1 MESSAGETOHULLID -2 BEGINTEXT Forbiden SS-N-27 ASW launch detected on Akula SSN 317 Pantera! ENDTEXT END GOAL 771201.937500 563444.250000 0.050000 BEGIN GOALNAME "SS-N-27 LAM detected" GOALID 3 PARENTGOALID -1 GOALTYPE 1 TRIGGERTYPE 1 REFIRETIME 1.000000 STARTTIME 0 ENDTIME 0 POINTS 100 MAXSPEED -1 MINDEPTH -1.000000 MAXDEPTH -1.000000 RETURNTOBASE 0 AUDIO touch3.wav ATTACHEDTARGETOBJ 2 OBJTOPROSECUTEENT 1498 MESSAGETYPEID 1 MESSAGETOHULLID -2 BEGINTEXT Forbiden SS-N-27 LAM launch detected on Akula SSN 317 Pantera! ENDTEXT END This mission haven't punishment because it is example mainly for MP games. After launching sizzlers all players have information (several times) who broke rules. Of course punishment can be add and repeating for message can be turn off but this is only for showing how to do something. I have task for you if you likes editor challenges Our community have some solutions for removing playable (but without human player) platforms from MP game. We need simple solution for removing any kind of platforms: - Sub - Surf - Helo - Airplane Main problem is, when you host game, some "mechanism" won't work properly. For example docrtine "Is Current Controllable" is useless in MP missions.

01-28-17, 09:23 PM	#2
p7p8 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 742 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 6	This is very good idea. Your mission works correct I have one question: why you use "aggregate" activation for trigger 4? P.S. My "beep" sound for messages is from game sounds: touch3.wav

01-28-17, 10:23 PM	#3
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Thanks for confirmation that it works! Aggregate works reliant and is easy to set up. Alternatively one could use "completed trigger" under doctrine language, I think it is the same principle. I don't like the touch 3 sound - it startles me every time, so I picked something else. xD

04-24-17, 05:28 PM	#5
Stewy1 Girt by Sea Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Red Route 1 Posts: 391 Downloads: 176 Uploads: 40	Hey Nip, I'm keen to do some 'Holystone' style missions where a boomer has to be tracked for a continuous period of time. How do you do it so that, say, you have to get a boomer on your spherical array and track it for, say, 2 hours, for the mission to be a success. If you lose contact, the timer resets and you have to start again. Thanks mate, Stew

04-25-17, 01:30 PM	#8
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Yes, Bill Nichols worked often with range-related triggers, I assume for that exact reason. Gotta, again, learn from the master, it seems. (I consider him/his work, the best ever for DW so far.)