US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Probably those 'million bikers' of yours that were supposed to show up at the inauguration,

They would have been there if the Dem's hadn't tricked them with 'Free Beer' signs everywhere.

[Subnuts]

A million bikers were going to come, but unfortunately, they all owned Harleys manufactured in the last decade, and 999,500 ended up breaking down before they could get within 10 miles of the Capitol building.

[Jeff-Groves]

More likely the trailers they hauled them on broke down.

[vienna]

Maybe those bikers shoulda had Yamahas or Hondas...



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[Jeff-Groves]

Triumphs.

[Aktungbby]

Norton Commandos

[Catfish]

BSAs!

[vienna]

As we in the US continue our descent into Orwellian hell, we now have to deal with outright lies...er, um...excuse me... "alternative facts":

Kellyanne Conway cites ‘alternative facts’ in tense interview with Chuck Todd over false crowd size claims:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kellyanne...171242433.html

We are currently awaiting the Trump Reich's implementation of Kafkaesque "trials"...



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[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by vienna

As we in the US continue our descent into Orwellian hell, we now have to deal with outright lies...er, um...excuse me... "alternative facts":

Kellyanne Conway cites ‘alternative facts’ in tense interview with Chuck Todd over false crowd size claims:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kellyanne...171242433.html

We are currently awaiting the Trump Reich's implementation of Kafkaesque "trials"...



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Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed.


Orwellian hell?
The Trump Reich's?


You in Colorado by chance? Cause you ARE smoking something.

[yubba]

Originally Posted by vienna

As we in the US continue our descent into Orwellian hell, we now have to deal with outright lies...er, um...excuse me... "alternative facts":

Kellyanne Conway cites ‘alternative facts’ in tense interview with Chuck Todd over false crowd size claims:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kellyanne...171242433.html

We are currently awaiting the Trump Reich's implementation of Kafkaesque "trials"...
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Would you be so kind to clarify,, when we started our continued descent into a Orwellian hell,, Trump has only been President for 2 days,, you keep forgetting the Democrats have been in charge for the last decade starting in 2006 when they won both houses of congress.. We avoided your Orwellian nightmare by voting in Trump,, you want to be like the EU and ditch the Constitution you are free to move there by all means,,..We are the riches country in the world you are just mad that the folk you support were stopped dead in their tracks from stealing our country out from under us in the name new world order redistrabution.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by vienna

we now have to deal with outright lies

So. The E-mail scandal is not lies that we had to deal with?

Can I send you my address? I really want some of that stuff you are smoking.

Face it.
No body elected gets some kind of Superman Suit that allows magic powers.
We elected ALL of them. From the local Mayor all the way up the ladder.
We did that by Law.
Under free will.
Majority rules and all that? It is what We have put in place and allowed.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed.


Orwellian hell?
The Trump Reich's?


You in Colorado by chance? Cause you ARE smoking something.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear; some people just can't recognize sarcasm when it is obvious. A sense of humor seems to be only apparent when someone uses a smiley?...

No, I'm not from Colorado; I'm from California, you know, the state Trump acolytes falsely claim denied Trump a win in the popular vote; it's not our fault Trump is so unpopular (as evidenced by “This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration — period — both in person and around the globe.” - not!)...

No, I don't smoke, neither cigarettes nor anything else; never have and never will. Can you claim likewise, because you appear to have drunk some highly questionable Kool-Aid...

(Note: Smiley added for clarity's sake...)

Originally Posted by yubba

Would you be so kind to clarify,, when we started our continued descent into a Orwellian hell,, Trump has only been President for 2 days,, you keep forgetting the Democrats have been in charge for the last decade starting in 2006 when they won both houses of congress.. We avoided your Orwellian nightmare by voting in Trump,, you want to be like the EU and ditch the Constitution you are free to move there by all means,,..We are the riches country in the world you are just mad that the folk you support were stopped dead in their tracks from stealing our country out from under us in the name new world order redistrabution.

I refer to my statement towards the previous quote...

However, it is true Trump and his circle have been engaging in a pattern of deception and mistruth for as long as Trump has been actively campaigning for the Presidency. Time after time, the falsehoods, even over minor issues, uttered and held by Trump, and his associates, has been well documented and, in a great many cases, documented by irrefutable video and audio recordings. So, Trump has been practicing his apparent lack of a grasp on reality long before his "2 days" and this problem doesn't appear to be near a solution anytime in the foreseeable future; the main problem is previously Trump's lies and denials of fact were only the vices of a private citizen; now they are the vices of the President of the United States, and, by the nature of their positions within the government, the likewise vices of Trump's staff and appointees are now official matters of our government; it brings to mind the line by Will Rogers who, when criticized by some members of Congress over his jokes about them and their actions, he noted that when he made a joke about politics and the government, it was just a joke; when Congress made a joke it was law. Unfortunately, for the US, the current joke now resides and the White House and he and his joke acolytes in other in other prominent governing positions are now in the position of making laws happen; somehow, I don't think we're going to like the punchlines...

White House Pushes ‘Alternative Facts.’ Here Are the Real Ones:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/u...ouse.html?_r=0

Makes one wonder: If someone will lie about relatively minor issues, would they hesitate to lie about major, meaningful issues...

As for "new world order", the last major usage of the term was in January, 1991 in a State of the Union speech before a joint session of Congress by... George H. W. Bush. Odd, but I never thought of him as a liberal, much less a Communist; maybe I missed something...

Now, "Would you be so kind to clarify", specifically, why any reasonable, intelligent person should trust or support such a transparently dishonest administration, or is dishonesty only a problem when someone you don't like is in office? Honesty and dishonesty is not fungible; nor are integrity and artifice...



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[mapuc]

I can not confirm following story

I have through some not-main stream media been told that Trump's 10 year old son is being mocked mostly on the Internet.

I truly hope it's nothing but fake news.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

Vienna,

I'm gonna be totally honest with you.
I poked fun at your comments just out of making a joke or 3.

Ya it was selfish and Trollish on my part.

So you up near the Golden Triangle?

[yubba]

Originally Posted by vienna

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear; some people just can't recognize sarcasm when it is obvious. A sense of humor seems to be only apparent when someone uses a smiley?...



However, it is true Trump and his circle have been engaging in a pattern of deception and mistruth for as long as Trump has been actively campaigning for the Presidency. Time after time, the falsehoods, even over minor issues, uttered and held by Trump, and his associates, has been well documented and, in a great many cases, documented by irrefutable video and audio recordings. So, Trump has been practicing his apparent lack of a grasp on reality long before his "2 days" and this problem doesn't appear to be near a solution anytime in the foreseeable future; the main problem is previously Trump's lies and denials of fact were only the vices of a private citizen; now they are the vices of the President of the United States, and, by the nature of their positions within the government, the likewise vices of Trump's staff and appointees are now official matters of our government; it brings to mind the line by Will Rogers who, when criticized by some members of Congress over his jokes about them and their actions, he noted that when he made a joke about politics and the government, it was just a joke; when Congress made a joke it was law. Unfortunately, for the US, the current joke now resides and the White House and he and his joke acolytes in other in other prominent governing positions are now in the position of making laws happen; somehow, I don't think we're going to like the punchlines...

White House Pushes ‘Alternative Facts.’ Here Are the Real Ones:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/u...ouse.html?_r=0

Makes one wonder: If someone will lie about relatively minor issues, would they hesitate to lie about major, meaningful issues...

As for "new world order", the last major usage of the term was in January, 1991 in a State of the Union speech before a joint session of Congress by... George H. W. Bush. Odd, but I never thought of him as a liberal, much less a Communist; maybe I missed something...

Now, "Would you be so kind to clarify", specifically, why any reasonable, intelligent person should trust or support such a transparently dishonest administration, or is dishonesty only a problem when someone you don't like is in office? Honesty and dishonesty is not fungible; nor are integrity and artifice...



<O>

"Would you be so kind to clarify", specifically, why any reasonable, intelligent person should trust or support such a transparently dishonest administration, or is dishonesty only a problem when someone you don't like is in office? Honesty and dishonesty is not fungible; nor are integrity and artifice,,,Like Hillary that has a trail of dead bodies behind her that a blind man could see,, a women that sold access to her while she was in office by to the highest bidder,that's called bribery, not too mention all the lies about Benghazi I hope she rots in prison..