New Laptop with Windows 10

Rockin Robbins · 01-07-17, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Linux and Silent Hunter, that is a hobby of Rocking Robbins, you better ask him: a.) he knows Linux better than I do, and b.) he has a thread in here describing how he has set up Silent Hunter and Linux.

Not all is possible regarding gaming and Linux, but much more than just years ago. And there is always the optionj to go with a Virtual Machine Windows running under Linux - an option I sympathised with some time ago, but still have not further examined. With age comes laziness...

Unfortunately I don't know anything about SH5.

I elected not to buy any more Ubi games after the initial SH5 debacle when it was clear that Ubi's vision was not simulation but soap opera, where the contents of the cook's soup was a focal point of the game. That and the log on or don't play thing. Didn't like their resumption of the SecuROM debacle after totally eliminating in in v1.3 of SH4 either.

I'm not interested in playing U-boats in a partial war in the Atlantic either. So I know zero about getting Silent Hunter 5 in Linux. I'll use my connections over at WineHQ to find out what I can. I'm the maintainer of their Silent Hunter 4 section so I should be able to find out whether SH5 works under WINE.

Like Skybird says, the alternative would be in a virtual machine running Windows cradled safely in the arms of Linux so it can't hurt anybody!

Rockin Robbins · 01-07-17, 06:40 PM

According to WineHQ, you're golden with SH5! Unless there's been a regression with WINE since then, it should work even better today than when it was tested with WINE 1.5. Current version was 2.1-rc2 last I knew. It's been flawless so far. You get an error message when leaving JSGME but just close the error box and continue as if it didn't happen!

Reece · 01-09-17, 11:38 PM

I have a few ini files that I would like to edit but I keep getting a message to say that the file is write protected!! When I check its properties it is not write protected, could this be a firewall thing?
Should I get rid of (uninstall) McAfee? How do I know if Windows firewall is active?
What is the benefit of paying $150 for the pro upgrade?

Edit: I finally found that I had to change the users rights to the file before I could edit it, what a pain!!
Every time I create a new folder it is write protected, how do I stop this? Talk about frustrating!!!

Rockin Robbins · 01-10-17, 07:09 PM

Step one: turn UAC, User Account Control, OFF. It gets in your way every time you try to do most anything but malware romps all over your machine like it's a playground. No benefit, lots of headaches.

Step 2: Take ownership of files with a right-click. I used Grant Admin Full Control, but I've not used it on Windows 10. For a solution guaranteed to work on Windows 10, follow this link for a great registry hack that lets you take control of any file or group of files you like! The other thing you can do to edit files Windows doesn't want you to is to boot up an Ubuntu Live CD. This boots Linux on your machine. Linux understands Windows better than Microsoft does and guess what? It doesn't respect Microsoft silliness about protected directories or even hidden files. Edit away! Then reboot Windows to see what you've done.

Microsoft has completely forgotten that your computer belongs to you. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better, as they take right after right away, daring you to leave them. What is now a choice, tomorrow may not be a choice at all.

I am totally surprised how large a weight was removed from my shoulders when I bit the bullet, deep sixed Windows (actually it deep-sixed me) and went with Ubuntu 16.10. I feel the freedom!

Reece · 01-11-17, 05:47 AM

Thanks for the help, I have downloaded the reg file and will install it tomorrow.
I know nothing about Linux/Unix whatsoever and at 65yo am a bit scared to delete windows and try it.
I seriously must look at a Linux boot disk/usb stick for a try, however there are a few things that I need this laptop for:
1) Games and so far if I try plugging in a usb keyboard the games crash, who knows what that problem could be??

Probably hardware.
2) SDR radio and control programs.
3) Oscilloscope (PC operated)
4) Wavelab sound editor.
These are the main reasons I have stuck to XP for such a long time, they all worked on that system but Firefox and other programs don't run properly anymore.

Instead of spending the money on Win 10 64 bit Pro maybe I should just buy and install Win 7, problem is that is on it's way out!!

Again many thanks for your help.

Rockin Robbins · 01-11-17, 07:42 AM

Win 7 has a full four years of support left. It's a good alternative for now.

Skybird · 01-11-17, 01:55 PM

If you install W7, you do want to update to SP1, but not much beyond that. Find an archive with SP1 - and then switch of Windows Update completely. All what is bad in W10l has been inverse-patched into W8 and W7 as well. So do not move beyond a patch status much later than SP1.

You would want to go to dual boot then, a Linux installation for surfing, emailing, browsing, work, for everything except

- game-launching, which is the only purpose you should use a not-upated and thus unsecure W7 for.

I did that myself and still do so, though not dual boot on one system anymore (that was for some testing months only), but now separating the two on two rigs. It works.

01-07-17, 06:40 PM	#2
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	According to WineHQ, you're golden with SH5! Unless there's been a regression with WINE since then, it should work even better today than when it was tested with WINE 1.5. Current version was 2.1-rc2 last I knew. It's been flawless so far. You get an error message when leaving JSGME but just close the error box and continue as if it didn't happen! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

01-09-17, 11:38 PM	#3
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,726 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	I have a few ini files that I would like to edit but I keep getting a message to say that the file is write protected!! When I check its properties it is not write protected, could this be a firewall thing? Should I get rid of (uninstall) McAfee? How do I know if Windows firewall is active? What is the benefit of paying $150 for the pro upgrade? Edit: I finally found that I had to change the users rights to the file before I could edit it, what a pain!! Every time I create a new folder it is write protected, how do I stop this? Talk about frustrating!!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!* Last edited by Reece; 01-10-17 at 05:57 AM.

01-10-17, 07:09 PM	#4
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Step one: turn UAC, User Account Control, OFF. It gets in your way every time you try to do most anything but malware romps all over your machine like it's a playground. No benefit, lots of headaches. Step 2: Take ownership of files with a right-click. I used Grant Admin Full Control, but I've not used it on Windows 10. For a solution guaranteed to work on Windows 10, follow this link for a great registry hack that lets you take control of any file or group of files you like! The other thing you can do to edit files Windows doesn't want you to is to boot up an Ubuntu Live CD. This boots Linux on your machine. Linux understands Windows better than Microsoft does and guess what? It doesn't respect Microsoft silliness about protected directories or even hidden files. Edit away! Then reboot Windows to see what you've done. Microsoft has completely forgotten that your computer belongs to you. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better, as they take right after right away, daring you to leave them. What is now a choice, tomorrow may not be a choice at all. I am totally surprised how large a weight was removed from my shoulders when I bit the bullet, deep sixed Windows (actually it deep-sixed me) and went with Ubuntu 16.10. I feel the freedom! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

01-11-17, 05:47 AM	#5
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,726 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the help, I have downloaded the reg file and will install it tomorrow. I know nothing about Linux/Unix whatsoever and at 65yo am a bit scared to delete windows and try it. I seriously must look at a Linux boot disk/usb stick for a try, however there are a few things that I need this laptop for: 1) Games and so far if I try plugging in a usb keyboard the games crash, who knows what that problem could be?? Probably hardware. 2) SDR radio and control programs. 3) Oscilloscope (PC operated) 4) Wavelab sound editor. These are the main reasons I have stuck to XP for such a long time, they all worked on that system but Firefox and other programs don't run properly anymore. Instead of spending the money on Win 10 64 bit Pro maybe I should just buy and install Win 7, problem is that is on it's way out!! Again many thanks for your help. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

01-11-17, 07:42 AM	#6
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Win 7 has a full four years of support left. It's a good alternative for now. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

01-11-17, 01:55 PM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,649 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	If you install W7, you do want to update to SP1, *but not much beyond that.* Find an archive with SP1 - and then switch of Windows Update completely. All what is bad in W10l has been inverse-patched into W8 and W7 as well. So do not move beyond a patch status much later than SP1. You would want to go to dual boot then, a Linux installation for surfing, emailing, browsing, work, for everything except - game-launching, which is the only purpose you should use a not-upated and thus unsecure W7 for. I did that myself and still do so, though not dual boot on one system anymore (that was for some testing months only), but now separating the two on two rigs. It works. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.