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Old 11-13-16, 05:42 PM   #1
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Its not a patch what Robbins suggests. The problem remains, and cannot be patched - which is not my claim, but a fact.

And many - the overwhelming majority of - Windows users do not know what he suggested. In fact they never have even heard of atom tables, and so stay vulnerable to the described problem and its consequences

Leave your known personal antipathy for me to GT forums' threads, AndyJWest, it must not have a place in here. This is no politics at all.


http://news.softpedia.com/news/malwa...e-509721.shtml

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2...787875#2787875
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Old 11-13-16, 06:03 PM   #2
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If you want to keep politics out of threads, I suggest that next time you don't post entirely irrelevant comments about 'Still wanting a cashless-"money"-society'.

And as I have already pointed out, this story is sourced to a company that sells 'Cyber Security'. It is in their interest to claim that it can't be fixed.
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Old 11-14-16, 06:57 AM   #3
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A "fix" it would be only if you abandon atom tables. You cannot because then Windows does not work anymore. The problem is due to the most profound internal design of Windows. That Windows is how it is - that is the problem here. The only fix would be to kill Windows. Everything else is just a workaround to live with the staying problem.

You could as well say that stop breathing would be a cure to stop the spreading of flu, and so "flu can be cured".

Tech infrastructure that is so easy to manipulate and so vulnerable to hacking and abusing it, is not the right basis for cashless money systems. To this this is no pltical a problem, but a technological problem - and I again see no cure for that. Already today the damage done digital bank robberies and fraud are much greater than real world cash money crime.

Stop running after your tail, you start to look ridiculous in your desperate effort to pull off another pointless collision with me. Its a hobby of yours. Or better: an obsession.
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Old 11-14-16, 08:16 AM   #4
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Skybird, the obsession is yours. You clearly spend hours looking for anything and everything you can find on the web which vaguely conforms to your apocalyptic world view just so you can post it on the Subsim forums. I have to ask, why here? Or is this just one of many forums you use as a soapbox? For the sake of who ever else has to put up with this nonsense, I hope not...

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Old 11-14-16, 09:40 AM   #5
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Actually, Windows could merely encrypt the atom tables and use checksums to verify them. It would be impossible to inject anything into them. Those articles, while containing an element of truth, obscure more than they reveal.

And Skybird is right. System file check does nothing to prevent alteration from happening. It detects and corrects, much like antivirus or antimalware software does. We're generally happy with how the latter two categories of software work, why would we not be similarly protected by periodically doing an "sfc /scannow" to eliminate alteration of system files?
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Old 11-14-16, 02:28 PM   #6
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I saw Skybird's original post, and had typed a reply, but I went to resize my browser window, and instead closed it... I wasn't in a mood to retype it at that point...


Code injection can be useful... (Although I think these only do it in RAM.)

Fallout Script Extender (FOSE), and New Vegas Script Extender (NVSE)...

I use these when I run FO3 and FO:NV. Many of the mods made for these two games would NOT work without code injection.

I've seen many similar "patches" (actually a program that launches the games .exe itself) for games that warn that virus and malware scanners may report them as a virus...

So I don't know why those sites would say that AV software can't find it, when some people have posted on the various download sites that their AV software IS finding it.

Just a few thoughts.

Barracuda

EDIT: "Code Injection" may not be the correct term for what I'm thinking of...

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