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Old 11-07-16, 06:38 AM   #29
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On topic again.. is there real evidence that "russian hackers" did influence, change or really do something regarding the US election? Or is this a conspiracy, apart from Russia always being the scapegoat for all.
Of course, cyber'war' and eavesdropping get stronger every day, but I guess there was no exterior influence necessary for this .. election, to screw things up as they are?

I mean the article is about "USA strong, with hackers standing by to attack Russia, the wole russian net is being under control and influence of the US". Fine, i guess then no one has to worry.
Well, we know that the wikileaks Podesta emails were grabbed by Russian hackers, the 'Fancy Bears', who are the same group who hacked olympic medical records after the Russian doping scandal. Now how close the Fancy Bears are to Moscow is up to debate, but certainly they are working in Russias interests and the message out of Moscow at the moment is that if Clinton gets elected then the likelihood of World War Three is raised dramatically. Now, the Podesta emails were definitely influential in the US election, and Trump used them multiple times to attack Hillary with, so there's a less direct but still prejudiced Russian based influence there. If they had also dropped Trump emails then you could make the argument that they are non-biased, but there you go.
As to whether there are indications of direct Russian attempts to influence the election via the hacking of electoral machines, that's a lot less clear, and if I had to guess I'd say that it has been ruled as 'possible' so all this rhetoric is a shot across the bows of Moscow, a sort of 'Don't even try it, comrade'.
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