2016 US Presidential election thread

[Bilge_Rat]

I had read somewhere that Obama had received way more threaths than his predecessor. The issue is not the lack of threats, but the secret Service seems to be a lot more effective.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I had read somewhere that Obama had received way more threaths than his predecessor. The issue is not the lack of threats, but the secret Service seems to be a lot more effective.

Which is amazing ... considering all of the traveling he has done, too bad he didn't do anything good that will last.

Obama will go back home to Hawaii or Chicago and ACA will be gone in two years. I feel sorry for all of the poor people that benifited from ACA, especially the first ones with uncovered insurance needs that were let in.

ACA needs a real overhaul and I'm not so sure either one of these canidates qualify to get the job done.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I had read somewhere that Obama had received way more threaths than his predecessor.

I had read the same.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Which is amazing ... considering all of the traveling he has done, too bad he didn't do anything good that will last.

Obama will go back home to Hawaii or Chicago and ACA will be gone in two years. I feel sorry for all of the poor people that benifited from ACA, especially the first ones with uncovered insurance needs that were let in.

ACA needs a real overhaul and I'm not so sure either one of these canidates qualify to get the job done.

Yeah...8 years of bad policy but got in enough travel and golf to last a last a lifetime.

The ACA will not go away. It will be repealed and replaced or the current law fine tuned. As of this date the ACA is not sustainable. Premiums did double over night. People can not afford that. Image if your rent/mortgage doubled over night. This is the ACA currently. The ACA has been handled very poorly. I know many who get the coverage for free by simply LYING on the applications and getting away with it. There is no oversight or follow up on applicants that have homes and families but claim their median income is $3.00. Yet they just financed a trip to Italy for 2 weeks. Another government program that is abused.

Hillary will be going for a single payer systems.

[Bilge_Rat]

the polls are rigged.

Trump has been saying it, for what it is worth, but since I look at the polls often I had noticed the same thing. Polls by many media organization often show a 10+ advantage to Clinton, while polls by more independent pollsters often show only a 3-5 points gap.

It turns out the Clinton campaign were rigging the polls to get more favorable results, per Wikileaks:

Now, for all of you out there who still aren't convinced that the polls are "adjusted", we present to you the following Podesta email, leaked earlier today, that conveniently spells out, in detail, exactly how to "manufacture" the desired data. The email starts out with a request for recommendations on "oversamples for polling" in order to "maximize what we get out of our media polling."

As to what oversampling is, it means including more favorable, i.e. more democrats, in your polls than are in the electorate:

Earlier this morning we wrote about the obvious sampling bias in the latest ABC / Washington Post poll that showed a 12-point national advantage for Hillary. Like many of the recent polls from Reuters, ABC and The Washington Post, this latest poll included a 9-point sampling bias toward registered democrats.

Of course, while democrats may enjoy a slight registration advantage of a couple of points, it is nowhere near the 9 points reflected in this latest poll.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...gh-oversamples

[Onkel Neal]

I believe it. Plus, factor in that Google was cooking search results in her favor for months.

[AVGWarhawk]

I believe it as well. The polling goes for certain areas that will have a lot of democrats or republicans. This naturally skews the poll if the calls are legitimately done. I never trusted the polls.

Another issue long ago was the media calling a state on election eve before the voting booths were closed. This kept people home. Why vote if the state has been declared? Another funny game is robo-calls on election day stating such and such candidate has won the state. No sense going to vote right?


Voting in a US election is rigged as rigged can get.

[Platapus]

Well if you can come up with a way of preventing any of the press from reporting on the election, I am sure we would welcome the suggestion.

Unfortunately, my state law requires that as soon as I publish my precinct's unofficial results they are public information.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Another issue long ago was the media calling a state on election eve before the voting booths were closed. This kept people home. Why vote if the state has been declared? Another funny game is robo-calls on election day stating such and such candidate has won the state. No sense going to vote right?


Voting in a US election is rigged as rigged can get.

I wouldn't call that rigging the vote at all because people can still vote how they want. Rigging would require altering votes cast. What it is is using influence to change peoples minds and is no different than any political advertisement for that matter.

[mapuc]

How reliable is your voting machines ?

Have throughout the evening seen many posted links to article and videos telling that these voting machines change the peoples choice

Or is it the person who voted, that can't figure out how it works ?

Markus

[Buddahaid]

It's fear mongering bull.

[Méo]

I heard somewhere that Trump is thinking about suing some polling organizations.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by mapuc

How reliable is your voting machines ?

Have throughout the evening seen many posted links to article and videos telling that these voting machines change the peoples choice

Or is it the person who voted, that can't figure out how it works ?

Markus

I'll take moronic voter for 400, Alex.

[Takeda Shingen]

All of the employees at Trump National Doral are having problems with Obamacare. And by that, one can infer that some of the employees at Trump National Doral are having problems with Obamacare. This really means that several employees at Trump National Doral are having problems with Obamacare. To clarify, maybe some employees at Trump National Doral are going to be taken off Obamacare. Maybe.

[em2nought]

Trump is the human Molotov cocktail that voters can throw!