The treat from AI: algorithmic blacklisting

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Enough of the ridiculing someone because they have an opinion different from yours. Once in a while, ok, but every time?

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but when it becomes rather patronizing preaching, are you really surprise that it provokes a negative response?

[Onkel Neal]

Sure, patronizing people will earn a negative response, but it shouldn't be automatic. And let's be fair, there is a lot of gif-trolling here. How hard is it to ignore? Some people have their drum to beat. I say just as long as they don't spam the place, (shrug).

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Sure, patronizing people will earn a negative response, but it shouldn't be automatic.

I agree, but when it is the same member preaching over and over again, it just becomes automatic. Personally, I did read the article and found it very much doesn't affect mean. So, for me it was just another of Skybird's 'Doom 'n Gloom' threads, hence my short reply.

And let's be fair, there is a lot of gif-trolling here.

Sometimes it is easier to convey your feelings over the internet via GIF.

How hard is it to ignore?

It can be surprisingly hard.

Anywhoo, that's my .2 cents.

I agree with the guy above.

Skybird, it isn't even what you say in general, it is how you say it.
You really can't make a post like that which is the picture perfect example of some bat-poop-crazy tinfoil freak informing everyone about "thy end is nigh!" and then complain that no one takes you serious anymore.

Also, who here said embrace all new tech?
Most people here seem to be well aware that not everything new is automatically just good.
There are reasons I do not use facebook or any other social media, won't spread my real name on the net, not my picture/face etc. etc.

People who do that, frankly, are absolutely naive, stupid - or really just don't know better, which isn't surprising.
However, such a post like your OP isn't helping, it is condescending, generalizing and flat out paranoid.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Skybird, it isn't even what you say in general, it is how you say it.

People who do that, frankly, are absolutely naive, stupid - or really just don't know better, which isn't surprising.

Originally Posted by Oberon

Stupid, as in knowing the dangers yet ignoring them.
Naive, as in dismissing any evidence for dangers.
Not knowing better, as in just not into that kind of stuff.

Was what I said so bad?
Where you reading Mein Kampf again!?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Stupid, as in knowing the dangers yet ignoring them.
Naive, as in dismissing any evidence for dangers.
Not knowing better, as in just not into that kind of stuff.

Was what I said so bad?
Where you reading Mein Kampf again!?

Told you guys, it's Das Kapital now...when the liberals come to take away my freedoms I need to at least know the language.

The thing is, there's a give and take relationship with modern technology, you get convenience and interconnectivity but you lose privacy and some security. For some people this is not a problem and it will not negatively effect them in their entire lives, for others it's the end of the world. I think that with every change in technology there will always be those who perceive the negative aspects of it as outweighing the positive ones.
Ultimately though time marches on and those people who you consider stupid and naive will outnumber and outlive you, and will probably consider their relative descendancy to be stupid and naive for using the technology that they do, perhaps full spectrum bio-neural connections which take you to another plane of existence mentally but come with some physical and psychological negative side-effects.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Sometimes it is easier to convey your feelings over the internet via GIF. It can be surprisingly hard.

Quite.

Compare and contrast the following:

1) Writing a detailed blow by blow response taking around half an hour of your time every time the same point is raised or

2) Finding a humorous gif and copying and pasting it, taking around five minutes maximum.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Quite.

Compare and contrast the following:

1) Writing a detailed blow by blow response taking around half an hour of your time every time the same point is raised or

2) Finding a humorous gif and copying and pasting it, taking around five minutes maximum.

[Skybird]

I HAVE been ridiculed before whenever I said something critical about the current modern times trend to uncritically embrace new technology. Have stopped counting some years ago how often I was told I should "just unplug the wire" and "live in a cave".

I knew it would trigger the same autonomous reflex once again when posting that link.

Its just that I do not care anymore.

The article I linked, is a good one, it brings up some valid and not immediately obvious consideration that many people never got aware of until today. Or even actually refuse to consider, due to comfortability or laziness or avoidance behavior.

Thats what it is about, and your mockery does not really reach me. I am not even angry about such things anymore - it just does not reach me anymore. Take and weigh what the author of that article has to say, or move on. The mess described there will not only get you anyway - it already does right now, in these past years while you are ignoring it. Its just that you are not aware.

What the author has to say there, what he tries to make you aware of, stands for itself in argument and observation. Whether you mock me for just delivering the message or not, is not relevant. Not for me, and not for the arguments.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I HAVE been ridiculed before whenever I said something critical about the current modern times trend to uncritically embrace new technology.

See, that's the problem in your delivery. We are all "uncritical" before you tell us how it is. We dont need a preacher.

Originally Posted by Skybird

The mess described there will not only get you anyway - it already does right now, in these past years while you are ignoring it. Its just that you are not aware.

Err, I am not "one of them" Sky...

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Err, I am not "one of them" Sky...

But you're not with him, therefore you're one of them.