Congress overides 9/11 bill veto.

[Mr Quatro]

Where's the list of individuals that have sued the US Gov or even the US military and won?
They on the other hand have other options than we do: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...02f_story.html

The oil-rich country, which has a long but often troubled relationship with Washington, maintains an arsenal of diplomatic and commercial tools it could respond with. They include curtailing official contacts, pulling billions of dollars from the U.S. economy, and persuading its close allies in the six-member Gulf Cooperation Council it dominates to scale back counterterrorism cooperation, investments and U.S. access to important regional air bases.

I just noticed this little fact: Senate voted today 97-1 to override President Obama’s veto

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

I just noticed this little fact: Senate voted today 97-1 to override President Obama’s veto

Harry Reid was the "1". He is retiring this year so is not worried about political fallout.

[Platapus]

It is going to be a useless law. It will accomplish nothing other than convincing some citizens to re-elect their member of congress.

If a US citizen sues the government of Saudi Arabia, there is nothing preventing them from just saying, "ah, no."

What exactly will the US government do? We are not going to start a war with Saudi Arabia over a civil lawsuit. They know too many very embarrassing skeletons in various embarrassing closets.

If a foreign citizen decides to sue the US government, there is nothing preventing us from just saying, "ah, no". No country is going to start a war with us over a civil lawsuit.

They can't take the US to the ICJ as we have already said that we will not abide by any ICJ decisions, since 1986. Twice the ICJ has ruled against the US and twice we have given the ICJ the one finger salute.

So this was just a feel good waste of time to get the 911 families to shut up and to allow congress to pretend that they did something.

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

If a US citizen sues the government of Saudi Arabia, there is nothing preventing them from just saying, "ah, no."

But what about their assets in the US. Couldn't they be seized as at least partial payment?

Originally Posted by August

But what about their assets in the US. Couldn't they be seized as at least partial payment?

See https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...mttimussa2&f=m

[August]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

See https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...mttimussa2&f=m

That is oil we're buying from them. I meant tangible assets like property and bank accounts.

Originally Posted by August

That is oil we're buying from them. I meant tangible assets like property and bank accounts.

Perhaps I was too subtle. Don't you think the Saudi's might consider stopping exporting oil to the U.S. if they had their assets seized?

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by August

But what about their assets in the US. Couldn't they be seized as at least partial payment?

Th US can always seize assets. Now whether that is legal or not is another issue. Again, since the US does not recognize authority of the ICJ with respect to decisions against the US, it becomes a moot point.

The issue with SA is that they have been involved in a lot of dirty work on behalf of the US... and have been well paid for it. If we annoy them enough, there might be an accidental "leak" of some documents that will prove most embarrassing.

What will probably happen is that if a citizen sues SA, the US will pay the citizen's claim (bet the tax payers will love that) and SA will "owe" the US the money. We will probably deduct that from some military sales deal.

What else can we do we going to do, take SA to the ICJ?
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