The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar - Page 130

em2nought · 09-18-16, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

For some reason, I don't think this is anything Islamic this time.
Probably just some (white) lunatic.

We'll see.

Now that they're getting desperate, I'm pretty sure there's someone there from DC carrying a couple brand new "team deplorable" shirts to place on whoever they arrest.

Jimbuna · 09-18-16, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Von Due

No doubt they will blame eachother until someone decides it's getting too silly which could take a while.

EDIT: That was over quick.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37398721

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Her opposite number, Vitaliy Churkin, said he had never seen "such an extraordinary display of American heavy-handedness" as shown by Ms Power.

I can think of a few countries (Ukraine to name but one) who would call 'kettle/pot black'.

Von Due · 09-18-16, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I can think of a few countries (Ukraine to name but one) who would call 'kettle/pot black'.

Yes but you see, there are bad guys and there are good guys, there are bad blunders and there are good blunders, there is bad friendly fire and there is good friendly fire. Just ask any politician or army spokesperson and they will agree

eddie · 09-18-16, 12:10 PM

Daesh claims responsibility for knife attack at Minnesota mall. FBI still investigating the attacker though. Just glad he is dead!

http://abcnews.go.com/US/isis-claims...ry?id=42173697

Oberon · 09-18-16, 01:17 PM

To be fair, Daesh claims responsibility for most things so I tend to take them with a truck of salt.

Catfish · 09-18-16, 01:54 PM

What does "taking responsibility" mean anyway?

Nothing, and it does not matter who uses this empty phrase, being it politicians or terrorists.

eddie · 09-18-16, 01:57 PM

That's true, but like I said the FBI is still investigating the attacker. I don't care if he was inspired by Daesh, as long as that POS is dead, that's all that matters,lol

Skybird · 09-18-16, 03:44 PM

The wannabe-murderer who attacked nine people in Minnesota with a knife, is claimed by media close to the IS to be - or better: to have been - an IS activist.

09-18-16, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

What does "taking responsibility" mean anyway?

Nothing, and it does not matter who uses this empty phrase, being it politicians or terrorists.

Can you elaborate?
I wouldn't say it means nothing.

If they just claim it because whatever, sure, it is meaningless.
But if the person really were in contact with them, influenced, instructed and supported maybe, then I'd say it does matter, wouldn't you?

Skybird · 09-18-16, 04:21 PM

Accepting or claiming responsibility:

An element of punishment is what it is about. The politicians who not only leaves an office but accepts to be held legally viable at court for whatever he claims he takes responsibility. The terror organisation or the criminal who make themselves targets of military, lethal retaliation for the crime they confessed to.

Somebody being hindered to continue with his doing, somebody not being elected once again, or leaving office - that is not what it is about, such "accpeting of responsibility" is just empty phrasing.

A criminal is not already being held responsible just because he gets arrested and thus hindred form repeating or continuing his crime. That he gets sentenced and must endure the penalty for the crime - that is what means he is being held responsible for something. Penalty, damage compensation and prevention are three totally different things.

Politicians most of the time never are being held responsible for anything. They are just changing the office for their political career, and even if they are kicked out of politics, which rarely happens only, they are being paid hilarious ammounts of money for their "expertise" or for holding speeches or lectures. Same is true for business lobbyists, and major business leaders. Usually they must not fear to be held accountable with their private property for their decisions, or that they are being sent to jail. The copnsequences of their misdxeeds only must be shouldered, endured, paid for by the people.

Where this personally punishing element lacks, "claiming responsibility" only is about making sound waves in the air. Its meaningless.

Same about forgiveness, and apologies. Before there maybe will be forgiveness, there must be confessing of guilt. Before confessing guilt, there must be remorse. Before there can be remorse, there must be insight. Without insight, remorse, confession of guilt, and accepting responsiblity, an excuse is a worthless waste of time, an offence of the receiver, at best the speaker is aiming at securing an opportunistic deal at court or an opportunistic advantage for their goals in life.

eddie · 09-18-16, 09:40 PM

The attacker in Minnesota was a 22 year old Somali. We have one of the largest Somali communities in the country around the Twin Cities. Have had a number of them go to Somalia to fight in that war, plus a number of them have been arrested and are facing federal charges of trying to go to the ME to join a terrorist organization , some have been found guilty and are awaiting sentencing.
To say this 22 year old Somali couldn't be inspired by Daesh is nonsense. He yelled the Akbar nonsense before he started stabbing people, and asked some if the were Muslim, before he stabbed them. An off duty cop shot and killed him, sure glad he was there to end it before he stabbed anyone else.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/0...islamic-state/

Jimbuna · 09-19-16, 10:33 AM

New York bombing suspect named as Ahmad Khan Rahami.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37409441

Oberon · 09-19-16, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

New York bombing suspect named as Ahmad Khan Rahami.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37409441

And also arrested:

Von Due · 09-19-16, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

And also arrested:

That was a good thing they didn't shoot him. Provided he's the one, now he has information that is pretty much inaccessible if he was shot dead, just what intelligence needs.

MaDef · 09-19-16, 11:07 AM

Since he is a U.S. citizen, He should be tried for treason, stripped of his citizenship, and hung. But that won't happen. It will be 3-4 years before He goes to trial and another 10-20 before he is executed if by some chance he is given the death penalty.

09-18-16, 12:10 PM	#1939
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Daesh claims responsibility for knife attack at Minnesota mall. FBI still investigating the attacker though. Just glad he is dead! http://abcnews.go.com/US/isis-claims...ry?id=42173697 __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-18-16, 01:54 PM	#1941
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,811 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	What does "taking responsibility" mean anyway? Nothing, and it does not matter who uses this empty phrase, being it politicians or terrorists. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 09-18-16 at 01:59 PM. Reason: spelling*

09-18-16, 01:57 PM	#1942
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	That's true, but like I said the FBI is still investigating the attacker. I don't care if he was inspired by Daesh, as long as that POS is dead, that's all that matters,lol __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-18-16, 03:44 PM	#1943
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,731 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The wannabe-murderer who attacked nine people in Minnesota with a knife, is claimed by media close to the IS to be - or better: to have been - an IS activist. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 09-18-16 at 04:28 PM.

09-18-16, 04:21 PM	#1945
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,731 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Accepting or claiming responsibility: An element of punishment is what it is about. The politicians who not only leaves an office but accepts to be held legally viable at court for whatever he claims he takes responsibility. The terror organisation or the criminal who make themselves targets of military, lethal retaliation for the crime they confessed to. Somebody being hindered to continue with his doing, somebody not being elected once again, or leaving office - that is not what it is about, such "accpeting of responsibility" is just empty phrasing. A criminal is not already being held responsible just because he gets arrested and thus hindred form repeating or continuing his crime. That he gets sentenced and must endure the penalty for the crime - that is what means he is being held responsible for something. Penalty, damage compensation and prevention are three totally different things. Politicians most of the time never are being held responsible for anything. They are just changing the office for their political career, and even if they are kicked out of politics, which rarely happens only, they are being paid hilarious ammounts of money for their "expertise" or for holding speeches or lectures. Same is true for business lobbyists, and major business leaders. Usually they must not fear to be held accountable with their private property for their decisions, or that they are being sent to jail. The copnsequences of their misdxeeds only must be shouldered, endured, paid for by the people. Where this personally punishing element lacks, "claiming responsibility" only is about making sound waves in the air. Its meaningless. Same about forgiveness, and apologies. Before there maybe will be forgiveness, there must be confessing of guilt. Before confessing guilt, there must be remorse. Before there can be remorse, there must be insight. Without insight, remorse, confession of guilt, and accepting responsiblity, an excuse is a worthless waste of time, an offence of the receiver, at best the speaker is aiming at securing an opportunistic deal at court or an opportunistic advantage for their goals in life. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-18-16, 01:17 PM	#1940
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	To be fair, Daesh claims responsibility for most things so I tend to take them with a truck of salt.

09-18-16, 09:40 PM	#1946
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	The attacker in Minnesota was a 22 year old Somali. We have one of the largest Somali communities in the country around the Twin Cities. Have had a number of them go to Somalia to fight in that war, plus a number of them have been arrested and are facing federal charges of trying to go to the ME to join a terrorist organization , some have been found guilty and are awaiting sentencing. To say this 22 year old Somali couldn't be inspired by Daesh is nonsense. He yelled the Akbar nonsense before he started stabbing people, and asked some if the were Muslim, before he stabbed them. An off duty cop shot and killed him, sure glad he was there to end it before he stabbed anyone else. http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/0...islamic-state/ __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-19-16, 10:33 AM	#1947
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,106 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	New York bombing suspect named as Ahmad Khan Rahami. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37409441 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-19-16, 11:07 AM	#1950
MaDef Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,194 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Since he is a U.S. citizen, He should be tried for treason, stripped of his citizenship, and hung. But that won't happen. It will be 3-4 years before He goes to trial and another 10-20 before he is executed if by some chance he is given the death penalty.