50th anniversary of the original series Star Trek

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by STEED

How many time did Kirk battle a computer and win?

I recall the "Not of the body" one and the M5 computer and one in a dragon's head cave. Must be one or two more.

Steed, you're not of the " body " either
The M5 computer was from the Episode " the ultimate Computer "

Originally Posted by mako88sb

I still remember watching this for the first time when I was only about 8 or 9. As you mentioned, some iffy episodes but for the most part, a great show. I think "The Doomsday Machine" is probably my favorite for the action/tension episodes with "The City on the Edge of Forever" being my favorite for the drama/thought provoking episodes. I think that episode name is gotta be the best one ever used for any TV series episode ever made.

It's pretty amazing how well it holds up after all these years. Much better than the first couple seasons of TNG. Thankfully, TNG eventually found it's way and came up with some great seasons. It will be interesting to see how the new series does.

The doomsday machine was another cool episode. The only question was the original version or the remade one with more special effects. Another great episode was the " Ultimate Computer " which pitted the Enterprise against 4 other identical starships in a war games scenario gone wrong .

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Not just "reminiscent of", but taken directly from the movie. I noticed this when the episode aired for the first time. I was sixteen, and the movie was one of my favorites.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/B...error_(episode)

And that's not a complaint. It's also one of my favorite episodes. I rewatched the series four years ago, and found it just as fascinating as it was in 1966.

I'm not sure if it was a direct take off or not Steve. I first saw Star trek, the original episodes from reruns that were old then. By then, I had already seen " the enemy below " with Kurt Jurgens and Robert Mitchum. It remains a classic. One can't argue the cat and mouse game played by Mitchum and Jurgens is the same as the one played by Kirk and the Romulan Commander in Star Trek. As you said, it was a great episode.

I however always wondered if the writer of this epidode or Gene Roddenbury himself was a fan of that Submarine movie. It's a safe bet they probably were.


Everyone had their favorites like Bilge Rat. I think He liked " Mirror Mirror " cause he got to see some skin. It was an interesting episode to see what the counterparts of the Enterprise would be like.

The Enterprise name itself was taken from the most decorated ship of WW2. It was none other than the " Big E " or the Carrier Enterprise CV 6 of the Yorktown Class.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

I'm not sure if it was a direct take off or not Steve. I first saw Star trek, the original episodes from reruns that were old then. By then, I had already seen " the enemy below " with Kurt Jurgens and Robert Mitchum.

I confess that I have not seen the movie, but I read the book. The captain notices the u-boat keeps returning to a certain course to make a rendezvous.
In the Star Trek episode, the Romulan ship keeps returning to a certain course to return home.

Take that for what it's worth.

[mapuc]

I'm a great fan of star trek, but I ain't no trekkies ´cause I have not that much knowledge about the actors, the things in the series. I just love the series

TOS
TNG
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DS9

Markus

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by razark

I confess that I have not seen the movie, but I read the book.

That's interesting. I've not conversed with anyone before who had read the book and not seen the movie. The Wiki link has some interesting comparisons. I also read, a long time ago, a reviewer who said he thought the movie was better than the book. In any case, I would highly recommend seeing the movie. It's what made me choose the navy when the time came to enlist, and it's what made me choose destroyers over any other ship when I was given that option.

I also apologize for dragging this further and further from Star Trek. My fault.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

If you get a chance to watch " The enemy below " do so as most believe the movie to be a fairly accurate representation of war at sea. You won't be disappointed.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

In any case, I would highly recommend seeing the movie.

Honestly, I want to see it. I keep catching it on TV about halfway through, so I've seen the end.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That's interesting. I've not conversed with anyone before who had read the book and not seen the movie. The Wiki link has some interesting comparisons. I also read, a long time ago, a reviewer who said he thought the movie was better than the book.

I happened to find a copy in a used bookstore. It was in horrible condition, and was falling apart as I read it. I didn't need a bookmark, I just kept the portion I hadn't read yet.

It's been a few years, but I remember I found the book to be a bit heavy on the side of "Man, those Nazis are evil, not like us good Brits." Kind of like some of the WWII movies I have seen that were made during the war. It had a real good guy vs. bad guy jingoism to it that took away from the story.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I also apologize for dragging this further and further from Star Trek. My fault.

It's Subsim. Anything to do with submarines is on topic, isn't it?


Edit:
Ok, Star Trek content.
I grew up with the original series reruns in the '80s, before TNG.
Starting Thursday until early Monday morning, one of the cable channels was running TOS. My 12-year-old spent most of his free time watching it. He's become a new fan.
I amazed him by walking into the room, and naming the episode that was currently playing within a few seconds. I think I missed one the whole time. (I knew which one it was, but I couldn't think of the title.)

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Rhodes

Landru loves you, Steed!

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Steed, you're not of the " body " either
The M5 computer was from the Episode " the ultimate Computer "

Yes that's the title.

I'm not a big fan of Star Trek these days.

[Platapus]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=194509

Sadly the movie was much better than the book, in my opinion.

[Rhodes]

Nostalgia Critic Star Trek month, the odd numbers films!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

I'm not sure if it was a direct take off or not Steve.

Down near the bottom of the site I linked are a couple of statements to that effect, which was the reason for the link in the first place.

The plot of this episode is based on the 1957 movie The Enemy Below, with the Enterprise taking the part of the American destroyer and the Bird-of-Prey with its cloaking device taking the part of the submarine. (The Star Trek Compendium 4th ed., p. 40) Director Vincent McEveety had seen the film but only noticed the similarity later, when this was pointed out to him. He commented, "Obviously, it's the same story." (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages, p. 34)

They also give links saying that Run Silent, Run deep may have been an inspiration as well.

One quote that I find fascinating:

Although phasers are used throughout the episode, the visual effect seen is that which later became used for photon torpedo launches, probably because the term "photon torpedo" was not invented until later in the season, in "Arena". Kirk orders the phasers to be "set for proximity blast"; each phaser blast acts like a Navy depth charge.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by razark

I confess that I have not seen the movie, but I read the book. The captain notices the u-boat keeps returning to a certain course to make a rendezvous.
In the Star Trek episode, the Romulan ship keeps returning to a certain course to return home.

Take that for what it's worth.

You are right and I'm sure others could make similar points as well. The books are usually better than the movie. I read the Tom Clancy Book " the Hunt for Red October which a number of Subsim members have said is one of their favorite Submarine movies. Although the movie was well produced and also one of my favorites, It leaves out a lot of details and the dynamics of the title characters. That's to fit the movie into a standard 2-3 hour movie. I thought the book was excellent and apparently others did too as it spent time on the best sellers list.

If you get a chance to watch " The enemy below " do so as most believe the movie to be a fairly accurate representation of war at sea. You won't be disappointed.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Down near the bottom of the site I linked are a couple of statements to that effect, which was the reason for the link in the first place.

They also give links saying that Run Silent, Run deep may have been an inspiration as well.

One quote that I find fascinating:

I missed the links so I will just go with it. The connection to the depth charges and the star trek " proximity torps is valid as well. I never saw the links you referenced but was fairly sure there was a connection between this Star Trek episode and the movie even if there were no links. Thanks for posting the links though because now I know for sure.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I'm a great fan of star trek, but I ain't no trekkies ´cause I have not that much knowledge about the actors, the things in the series. I just love the series

TOS
TNG
Voy
DS9

Markus

If you enjoy watching it, that's all that matters. You are in good company.