Writing a novel on Imp. Kilos, need some sources

Onkel Neal · 07-05-16, 08:41 AM

Hey man, good luck with this project, I will enjoy reading it.

Have you read Patrick Robinson's Kilo Class ?

Aktungbby · 07-05-16, 09:12 AM

CapitaCatalunya

CapitaCatalunya · 07-05-16, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Hey man, good luck with this project, I will enjoy reading it.

Have you read Patrick Robinson's Kilo Class ?

Thank you Onkel, will definitely check that one, it seems it is a sequel of "Nimitz class" which has good reviews

Just to give you a snippet of what mine's about, it deals with submarine and surface warfare in the Western Mediterranean in the very near future

Kapitan · 07-16-16, 03:15 PM

i can tell you everything is on one level in a Kilo yes they do have spaces under the floor the batteries are in the front and rear of the submarine under the floor and can be accessed by panels in the floor, whats more the pantry is on the same level as the galley.
You will find cut away's and drawings hard to find these submarines are still active and still being built and the older ones differ from the new ones in some cases considerable especially export models.

Kapitan · 07-16-16, 03:48 PM

This is the best one ive found so far problem is its of an 877 not a 636 layout is similar but there are differences

Aktungbby · 07-16-16, 04:05 PM

httphttp://defense-update.com/20120817_improved_kilo.html

Kapitan · 07-16-16, 04:15 PM

can see the differences ive been digging out my books they have no plans in them sadly only information.

Aktungbby · 07-16-16, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan

can see the differences ive been digging out my books they have no plans in them sadly only information.

Indeed. very few diagrams but since they're still upgrading for export market, probably still under tight key.

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"In 2008 Vietnam signed a US$2 billion deal to buy the six Project 636M Kilo class submarines from Russia. All subs are scheduled for delivery by 2016"

At least they'll be allied to the US for suppressing the current Chinese island expansion in the 'cow's lick' http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/636m.htm https://news.usni.org/2012/08/20/russian-subs-vietnam

CapitaCatalunya · 06-12-18, 11:27 PM

Please allow me to resurrect this thread with an update on my part. As I've said, I've been "writing" (more like documenting myself) a war/political thriller novel based on modern submarines for the past two years.

I havent have much time to dedicate to it, had to take looooong brakes and got more systematic on my approach, I've been building my fictitional fleet from scratch, and currently I'm trying to choose the best submarines for it. I've shortlisted the Japanese Soryu class, the Dolphin-II and yes, the 636.1 Kilos (believe it or not acquiring each of these types makes sense in-universe). I would really, really love to consider the Akula-III's, they are my favourite SSN's (although the Astutes are growing on me) but the conflict I'm portrying takes place in the Mediterranean littoral areas,and nuclear subs are at a significant disadvantage there. My navy will be figthing against a NATO-style navy equipped with Scorpene-style subs (AIPs).

I've been "asking around" trying to get more info on the newest Kilos (636.1) but although I learned a lot, such as that they have the pantry besides the Kitchen, not on a lower level like the french subs do (I love this aspect of french subs) there's still so much I don't know.

For example, do the 636's crew have to manually check the acid-lead batteries as they do in the 877's (at least the Indian and Iranian Kilos do it that way) crawling on those sliding thinggies??

Do the Kilos have a watermaker? The indian sailors I watched said they don't wash ever during missions and the shower had a lock

Do the 636 Kilos have a mess for the crew, or they eat on their cabins as in the 877's? I know the Lada does, and it's not bigger than the Kilo and in a russian 636 documentary I saw they showed a mock mess room in the shipyard where they built the subs, but I don't speak russian and the auto translated captions are horrible

Thank you thank you thank you in advance

07-05-16, 08:41 AM	#1
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07-05-16, 09:12 AM	#2
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07-16-16, 03:15 PM	#4
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,131 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	i can tell you everything is on one level in a Kilo yes they do have spaces under the floor the batteries are in the front and rear of the submarine under the floor and can be accessed by panels in the floor, whats more the pantry is on the same level as the galley. You will find cut away's and drawings hard to find these submarines are still active and still being built and the older ones differ from the new ones in some cases considerable especially export models. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/ Last edited by Kapitan; 07-16-16 at 03:35 PM.

07-16-16, 03:48 PM	#5
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,131 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	This is the best one ive found so far problem is its of an 877 not a 636 layout is similar but there are differences __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

07-16-16, 04:05 PM	#6
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,036 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	updated Kilo class 636 httphttp://defense-update.com/20120817_improved_kilo.html __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

07-16-16, 04:15 PM	#7
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,131 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	can see the differences ive been digging out my books they have no plans in them sadly only information. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

06-12-18, 11:27 PM	#9
CapitaCatalunya Watch Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 26 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Please allow me to resurrect this thread with an update on my part. As I've said, I've been "writing" (more like documenting myself) a war/political thriller novel based on modern submarines for the past two years. I havent have much time to dedicate to it, had to take looooong brakes and got more systematic on my approach, I've been building my fictitional fleet from scratch, and currently I'm trying to choose the best submarines for it. I've shortlisted the Japanese Soryu class, the Dolphin-II and yes, the 636.1 Kilos (believe it or not acquiring each of these types makes sense in-universe). I would really, really love to consider the Akula-III's, they are my favourite SSN's (although the Astutes are growing on me) but the conflict I'm portrying takes place in the Mediterranean littoral areas,and nuclear subs are at a significant disadvantage there. My navy will be figthing against a NATO-style navy equipped with Scorpene-style subs (AIPs). I've been "asking around" trying to get more info on the newest Kilos (636.1) but although I learned a lot, such as that they have the pantry besides the Kitchen, not on a lower level like the french subs do (I love this aspect of french subs) there's still so much I don't know. For example, do the 636's crew have to manually check the acid-lead batteries as they do in the 877's (at least the Indian and Iranian Kilos do it that way) crawling on those sliding thinggies?? Do the Kilos have a watermaker? The indian sailors I watched said they don't wash ever during missions and the shower had a lock Do the 636 Kilos have a mess for the crew, or they eat on their cabins as in the 877's? I know the Lada does, and it's not bigger than the Kilo and in a russian 636 documentary I saw they showed a mock mess room in the shipyard where they built the subs, but I don't speak russian and the auto translated captions are horrible Thank you thank you thank you in advance