Windows 10: What You Need to Know - Page 55

Skybird · 06-10-16, 06:15 AM

Even MBAM can be defeated, I am certain.

As I said: by using security software, you influence chances in your favour, probabilities. But you never gain 100%.

Trust and confidence of the type "I use this and that, I am certain that I will not get hit", is not justifiable. All computer users are vulnerable, for many different reasons: installation, OS, settings, sec software used, sites visited. Some are more vulnerable, some less.

I only recommend to do what you can to belong to the latter. The only alternatives are: either pull the plug completely - or be aware of your risks that you inevitably need to accept. My choice was to reduce them at the cost of reducing comfort in using my rig.

Oh, and one advise that many people will laugh about and laugh at me for, saying it is from the stoneage: when you end your computer session and leave the desk for a brake of not just some minutes - SWITCH OFF your computer, completely. Not sleep mode. Not stand-by mode. OFF. Also, when leaving the house, switch off your modem or router. The telephone call that does not get recorded: if it was important, they will call again.

Fubar2Niner · 06-10-16, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

Thanks, Skybird... your warning is very timely, for I only recently discovered that payware can stand 'permanent guard' over your system. I was planning to get this extra peace of mind for my business PC but stick with free for the other (unless it offers multi-device cover)..................

Eich many Suites offer multi platform/device cover. Bitdefender is one, but many others also mate. Don't go down without a fight

Best regards.

Fubar

STEED · 06-10-16, 01:39 PM

Interesting payware Vs Freeware I was having a chat with PC repair guy who is well up on the subject and he said yes payware is better but is limited. He felt that all this standard safeguards will be history as these Malwares/Viruses become more complex and very capable of fooling payware. If true the future is looking dark, well make the most of it people. Better stock up on paper and get a few pigeons in.

BTW: I was with a mate trying to get his PC fixed after MS did the dirty on him. With luck he will get it back running Win8.1 some time next week.

Eichhörnchen · 06-10-16, 02:40 PM

Something that AVG keep thrusting under my nose with frequent pop-ups (I'm only using their freeware at the moment) is their 'Tune-up' utility. You get this included with the payware version.

I once bought a PC tune-up software disc for XP (PX Software's 'Tune Up Utilities') at a garden centre, of all places, and this marvellous piece of kit has soldiered on, year-in-year-out, keeping my offline XP computer clean and tidy with ongoing disc clean-ups etc, never needing 'updating' or asking anything more from me. It just gets on with the business I purchased it for.

Isn't there a good, free, 'housekeeping' utility like this for Win10?

HW3 · 06-10-16, 07:44 PM

IObit: Advanced SystemCare 9 is free and supports Win 10.

http://download.cnet.com/Advanced-Sy...-10407614.html

If you do download from this site, read each install notice carefully, or you might end up with a program you do not want installed too.

Eichhörnchen · 06-11-16, 01:42 AM

Thanks, buddy

I'll take heed of the warning, too.

STEED · 06-11-16, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

Thanks, buddy

I'll take heed of the warning, too.

Careful that link is Cnet better known as Malware and loads of other crap net. Mate went over there last week downloaded what he wanted and a ton of other stuff got on his OS behind his back. I know how he feels I got stung twice some years ago and never gone back to that site.

Sailor Steve · 06-11-16, 07:34 AM

Here is ASC 9's dedicated download page. You might still find it asking if you want to install this, that or the other new toolbar, so select 'Custom Download" over "Automatic" if they give you that option.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/getmirr...mcare_9,1.html

I've been using ASC to clean and shut down my computer for years to clean and shut down my PC every night, and it works very well. I'm still using ASC 6.4. ASC 9 is a lot better, but they broke one little thing with ASC 7 and never fixed it. One of the things I have it set to do is automatically erase all my previous day's internet traces when it starts up, and it worked very well until I got version 7. With that one it would not erase my history, but it would erase my log-ins, so I would have to log back in to all my favorite websites, including my home page. A lot of people complained about it, but when ASC 8 came out it was exactly the same. ASC 9 seemed to fix the problem, but after a couple of months it started doing it again, so I went back to the much older version for that one reason.

If you don't want your PC cleaner program to erase your history every day, then Advanced SystemCare 9 is probably the best one you'll find.

Jimbuna · 06-11-16, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

Careful that link is Cnet better known as Malware and loads of other crap net. Mate went over there last week downloaded what he wanted and a ton of other stuff got on his OS behind his back. I know how he feels I got stung twice some years ago and never gone back to that site.

Careful STEED, that link of Steves is Cnet

Actually, you shouldn't be too concerned provided you've a decent security kit enabled.

Sailor Steve · 06-11-16, 07:46 AM

You're right, it was. I've replaced it with a link to Major Geek's page.

And here's one to Softonic. I don't know if they're bad or not.

STEED · 06-11-16, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Careful STEED, that link of Steves is Cnet

Actually, you shouldn't be too concerned provided you've a decent security kit enabled.

That's the problem jim, all that other crap is bundled in on what you want and before the alarms go off a percentage of that crap has landed on your OS. Any old joker can upload to Cnet and some poor sod will get stuffed, granted there are others that are also minefields as well. So far for me FileHipo has been clean as I heard from some where they check the stuff to see its all right.

Jimbuna · 06-11-16, 08:00 AM

Advanced System Care: filehippo

http://filehippo.com/search?q=advanced+system+care

STEED · 06-11-16, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Microsoft takes Windows 10 upgrade near nuclear line

http://www.computerworld.com/article...lear-line.html

I think they have crossed the line by being sneaky, question is will they blatantly cross the line?

Jimbuna · 06-11-16, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

http://www.computerworld.com/article...lear-line.html

I think they have crossed the line by being sneaky, question is will they blatantly cross the line?

Why not? nothing seems to have stopped them thus far.

STEED · 06-11-16, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Why not? nothing seems to have stopped them thus far.

True, just have to see if anyone has the guts to stand up to MS and say that is it see you in court.

06-10-16, 06:15 AM	#811
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,680 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Even MBAM can be defeated, I am certain. As I said: by using security software, you influence chances in your favour, probabilities. But you never gain 100%. Trust and confidence of the type "I use this and that, I am certain that I will not get hit", is not justifiable. All computer users are vulnerable, for many different reasons: installation, OS, settings, sec software used, sites visited. Some are more vulnerable, some less. I only recommend to do what you can to belong to the latter. The only alternatives are: either pull the plug completely - or be aware of your risks that you inevitably need to accept. My choice was to reduce them at the cost of reducing comfort in using my rig. Oh, and one advise that many people will laugh about and laugh at me for, saying it is from the stoneage: when you end your computer session and leave the desk for a brake of not just some minutes - SWITCH OFF your computer, completely. Not sleep mode. Not stand-by mode. OFF. Also, when leaving the house, switch off your modem or router. The telephone call that does not get recorded: if it was important, they will call again. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-10-16, 01:39 PM	#813
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Interesting payware Vs Freeware I was having a chat with PC repair guy who is well up on the subject and he said yes payware is better but is limited. He felt that all this standard safeguards will be history as these Malwares/Viruses become more complex and very capable of fooling payware. If true the future is looking dark, well make the most of it people. Better stock up on paper and get a few pigeons in. BTW: I was with a mate trying to get his PC fixed after MS did the dirty on him. With luck he will get it back running Win8.1 some time next week. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

06-10-16, 02:40 PM	#814
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,428 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Something that AVG keep thrusting under my nose with frequent pop-ups (I'm only using their freeware at the moment) is their 'Tune-up' utility. You get this included with the payware version. I once bought a PC tune-up software disc for XP (PX Software's 'Tune Up Utilities') at a garden centre, of all places, and this marvellous piece of kit has soldiered on, year-in-year-out, keeping my offline XP computer clean and tidy with ongoing disc clean-ups etc, never needing 'updating' or asking anything more from me. It just gets on with the business I purchased it for. Isn't there a good, free, 'housekeeping' utility like this for Win10? __________________ Last edited by Eichhörnchen; 06-10-16 at 02:52 PM.

06-10-16, 07:44 PM	#815
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,577 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	IObit: Advanced SystemCare 9 is free and supports Win 10. http://download.cnet.com/Advanced-Sy...-10407614.html If you do download from this site, read each install notice carefully, or you might end up with a program you do not want installed too. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

06-11-16, 01:42 AM	#816
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,428 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Thanks, buddy I'll take heed of the warning, too. __________________

06-11-16, 07:34 AM	#818
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Here is ASC 9's dedicated download page. You might still find it asking if you want to install this, that or the other new toolbar, so select 'Custom Download" over "Automatic" if they give you that option. http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/getmirr...mcare_9,1.html I've been using ASC to clean and shut down my computer for years to clean and shut down my PC every night, and it works very well. I'm still using ASC 6.4. ASC 9 is a lot better, but they broke one little thing with ASC 7 and never fixed it. One of the things I have it set to do is automatically erase all my previous day's internet traces when it starts up, and it worked very well until I got version 7. With that one it would not erase my history, but it would erase my log-ins, so I would have to log back in to all my favorite websites, including my home page. A lot of people complained about it, but when ASC 8 came out it was exactly the same. ASC 9 seemed to fix the problem, but after a couple of months it started doing it again, so I went back to the much older version for that one reason. If you don't want your PC cleaner program to erase your history every day, then Advanced SystemCare 9 is probably the best one you'll find. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo Last edited by Sailor Steve; 06-11-16 at 07:45 AM. Reason: Better link

06-11-16, 07:46 AM	#820
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	You're right, it was. I've replaced it with a link to Major Geek's page. And here's one to Softonic. I don't know if they're bad or not. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-11-16, 08:00 AM	#822
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,742 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Advanced System Care: filehippo http://filehippo.com/search?q=advanced+system+care __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!