Windows 10: What You Need to Know

Skybird · 06-09-16, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

Thanks for that; I don't remember who it was told me I needed Win 10 to keep antivirus up to date, but we're all going to get stuffed with it in the end, just like turkeys at Christmas.

When that day comes that I cannot avoid W10 anymore, I will have two separate machines and W10 only with some offline games anymore, nothing else.

Eichhörnchen · 06-10-16, 12:06 AM

Thanks, Skybird... your warning is very timely, for I only recently discovered that payware can stand 'permanent guard' over your system. I was planning to get this extra peace of mind for my business PC but stick with free for the other (unless it offers multi-device cover). The tables you linked to are very useful indeed, so thank you once again.

And by MBAM I presume you mean Malwarebytes?

Skybird · 06-10-16, 05:26 AM

Yes. Malwarebyte'S Anti-Malware.

But always be aware that you only influence the chances in your favour, you do not gain absolute, total protection. There is malware out there since some years that can easily defeat any scanner and firewall on the market and actively avoid getting detected by them. Some gurus go as far as saying that the security business only still runs its income show by raising false assumptions about scanner software to milk people a bit more - their recommendations go as far as saying you should not care for spending on scanners at all.

I think they are still useful, at least for filtering out a good amount of new malware that is not as cleverly coded, and the whole lot of old malware that these scanners, the better ones at least, can reliably filter out.

Its war, and security is loosing it.

Eichhörnchen · 06-10-16, 05:33 AM

I read somewhere that Malwarebytes "Anti Exploit" has been specially developed for spotting some of these newer threats. I'd already decided that this was probably the best option...

Skybird · 06-10-16, 06:15 AM

Even MBAM can be defeated, I am certain.

As I said: by using security software, you influence chances in your favour, probabilities. But you never gain 100%.

Trust and confidence of the type "I use this and that, I am certain that I will not get hit", is not justifiable. All computer users are vulnerable, for many different reasons: installation, OS, settings, sec software used, sites visited. Some are more vulnerable, some less.

I only recommend to do what you can to belong to the latter. The only alternatives are: either pull the plug completely - or be aware of your risks that you inevitably need to accept. My choice was to reduce them at the cost of reducing comfort in using my rig.

Oh, and one advise that many people will laugh about and laugh at me for, saying it is from the stoneage: when you end your computer session and leave the desk for a brake of not just some minutes - SWITCH OFF your computer, completely. Not sleep mode. Not stand-by mode. OFF. Also, when leaving the house, switch off your modem or router. The telephone call that does not get recorded: if it was important, they will call again.

Fubar2Niner · 06-10-16, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

Thanks, Skybird... your warning is very timely, for I only recently discovered that payware can stand 'permanent guard' over your system. I was planning to get this extra peace of mind for my business PC but stick with free for the other (unless it offers multi-device cover)..................

Eich many Suites offer multi platform/device cover. Bitdefender is one, but many others also mate. Don't go down without a fight

Best regards.

Fubar

STEED · 06-10-16, 01:39 PM

Interesting payware Vs Freeware I was having a chat with PC repair guy who is well up on the subject and he said yes payware is better but is limited. He felt that all this standard safeguards will be history as these Malwares/Viruses become more complex and very capable of fooling payware. If true the future is looking dark, well make the most of it people. Better stock up on paper and get a few pigeons in.

BTW: I was with a mate trying to get his PC fixed after MS did the dirty on him. With luck he will get it back running Win8.1 some time next week.

Eichhörnchen · 06-10-16, 02:40 PM

Something that AVG keep thrusting under my nose with frequent pop-ups (I'm only using their freeware at the moment) is their 'Tune-up' utility. You get this included with the payware version.

I once bought a PC tune-up software disc for XP (PX Software's 'Tune Up Utilities') at a garden centre, of all places, and this marvellous piece of kit has soldiered on, year-in-year-out, keeping my offline XP computer clean and tidy with ongoing disc clean-ups etc, never needing 'updating' or asking anything more from me. It just gets on with the business I purchased it for.

Isn't there a good, free, 'housekeeping' utility like this for Win10?

HW3 · 06-10-16, 07:44 PM

IObit: Advanced SystemCare 9 is free and supports Win 10.

http://download.cnet.com/Advanced-Sy...-10407614.html

If you do download from this site, read each install notice carefully, or you might end up with a program you do not want installed too.

Eichhörnchen · 06-11-16, 01:42 AM

Thanks, buddy

I'll take heed of the warning, too.

06-10-16, 12:06 AM	#2
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,447 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Thanks, Skybird... your warning is very timely, for I only recently discovered that payware can stand 'permanent guard' over your system. I was planning to get this extra peace of mind for my business PC but stick with free for the other (unless it offers multi-device cover). The tables you linked to are very useful indeed, so thank you once again. And by MBAM I presume you mean Malwarebytes? __________________ Last edited by Eichhörnchen; 06-10-16 at 01:33 AM.

06-10-16, 05:26 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,696 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Yes. Malwarebyte'S Anti-Malware. But always be aware that you only influence the chances in your favour, you do not gain absolute, total protection. There is malware out there since some years that can easily defeat any scanner and firewall on the market and actively avoid getting detected by them. Some gurus go as far as saying that the security business only still runs its income show by raising false assumptions about scanner software to milk people a bit more - their recommendations go as far as saying you should not care for spending on scanners at all. I think they are still useful, at least for filtering out a good amount of new malware that is not as cleverly coded, and the whole lot of old malware that these scanners, the better ones at least, can reliably filter out. Its war, and security is loosing it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-10-16, 05:33 AM	#4
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,447 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I read somewhere that Malwarebytes "Anti Exploit" has been specially developed for spotting some of these newer threats. I'd already decided that this was probably the best option... __________________

06-10-16, 06:15 AM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,696 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Even MBAM can be defeated, I am certain. As I said: by using security software, you influence chances in your favour, probabilities. But you never gain 100%. Trust and confidence of the type "I use this and that, I am certain that I will not get hit", is not justifiable. All computer users are vulnerable, for many different reasons: installation, OS, settings, sec software used, sites visited. Some are more vulnerable, some less. I only recommend to do what you can to belong to the latter. The only alternatives are: either pull the plug completely - or be aware of your risks that you inevitably need to accept. My choice was to reduce them at the cost of reducing comfort in using my rig. Oh, and one advise that many people will laugh about and laugh at me for, saying it is from the stoneage: when you end your computer session and leave the desk for a brake of not just some minutes - SWITCH OFF your computer, completely. Not sleep mode. Not stand-by mode. OFF. Also, when leaving the house, switch off your modem or router. The telephone call that does not get recorded: if it was important, they will call again. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-10-16, 01:39 PM	#7
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Interesting payware Vs Freeware I was having a chat with PC repair guy who is well up on the subject and he said yes payware is better but is limited. He felt that all this standard safeguards will be history as these Malwares/Viruses become more complex and very capable of fooling payware. If true the future is looking dark, well make the most of it people. Better stock up on paper and get a few pigeons in. BTW: I was with a mate trying to get his PC fixed after MS did the dirty on him. With luck he will get it back running Win8.1 some time next week. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

06-10-16, 02:40 PM	#8
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,447 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Something that AVG keep thrusting under my nose with frequent pop-ups (I'm only using their freeware at the moment) is their 'Tune-up' utility. You get this included with the payware version. I once bought a PC tune-up software disc for XP (PX Software's 'Tune Up Utilities') at a garden centre, of all places, and this marvellous piece of kit has soldiered on, year-in-year-out, keeping my offline XP computer clean and tidy with ongoing disc clean-ups etc, never needing 'updating' or asking anything more from me. It just gets on with the business I purchased it for. Isn't there a good, free, 'housekeeping' utility like this for Win10? __________________ Last edited by Eichhörnchen; 06-10-16 at 02:52 PM.

06-10-16, 07:44 PM	#9
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,579 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	IObit: Advanced SystemCare 9 is free and supports Win 10. http://download.cnet.com/Advanced-Sy...-10407614.html If you do download from this site, read each install notice carefully, or you might end up with a program you do not want installed too. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

06-11-16, 01:42 AM	#10
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,447 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Thanks, buddy I'll take heed of the warning, too. __________________