REQ - Permission for use a guns library

VonDos · 05-22-16, 07:36 AM

Hi everyone!
While finally testing RM Aquila new carrier, i've readed original project's specifications about guns:

MAIN --> 8 × 135 mm (5.3 in)/45 cal guns
SECONDARY --> 12 × 65 mm (2.56 in)/64 cal guns
A\A --> 132 × 20 mm (0.79 in)/65 cal

At moment ingame model use as secondary guns 4.0 in. single from standard guns library. Powerfull. Too powerfull in place of a 65mm cannon.

I've searched into my library folder a more "historical" or similar gun, i've found "76mmRSingle" from gunsVaa_Liliput.dat, i think from "Vaa_Liliput"
I've searched this member but i can find he, for ask permission to use his guns in final release. Does anyone know how to contact him for ask?
Naturally if ok for him, i'll give credits

Sailor Steve · 05-22-16, 08:53 AM

I can't find an user by that name or any name close to it. Where did you get the file from?

gap · 05-22-16, 10:46 AM

@ VonDos

Bitts and railings on the lower deck are black rather than metal-gray. Did you make them like this on purpose or what is going on with their texture?

gap · 05-22-16, 11:09 AM

135 mm/45 (5.3") Models 1937 and 1938
65 mm/64 (2.56") Model 1939
20 mm/65 Models 1935, 1939 and 1940 (Breda)

The 20mm guns were in a uncommon sextuple-mount configuration. I would be curious to see how they looked like

Anvar1061 · 05-22-16, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I can't find an user by that name or any name close to it. Where did you get the file from?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...88&postcount=1

s7rikeback · 05-22-16, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I can't find an user by that name or any name close to it. Where did you get the file from?

VonDos

denis 469 seems to be your best point of contact..

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//sho...32&postcount=4

regards,
s7rikeback

VonDos · 05-22-16, 05:33 PM

Thanks everyone! PM sent to Denis_469, waiting for..

@gap, yes, i've painted them black

in this "detailed" pic they looks bad, but if you see the entire unit from a "normal" distance the effect is really good

I think sextuple-mount configuration was just a project version, never realized (ingame i've used a quadruple more generic a\a)

Fahnenbohn · 05-23-16, 07:14 AM

Were there really so many A/A guns ???

Sailor Steve · 05-23-16, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Were there really so many A/A guns ???

British Illustrious class carriers had 16 x 4.5" guns, 48 x 2pdr and 40 x 20mm.

American Essex class carriers carried 12 x 5" guns, 72 x 40mm and 52 , 20mm.

They had a bit of protection.

VonDos · 05-23-16, 12:11 PM

Japanese Shinano had:

8 × twin 12.7 cm Type 89 dual-purpose guns
35 × triple 25 mm Type 96 AA guns
12 × 28 – 12 cm (4.7 in) AA rocket launchers

O_O

ps @ gap

Bitts will be repainted in dark gray.. i see they're good =)

gap · 05-23-16, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VonDos

Bitts will be repainted in dark gray.. i see they're good =)

Whatever you think looks better

I asked about bitts and railings not because I didn't like their current colour, but because I thought they could be missing their texture

About the guns, if I find good pictures, with my time I might model the Italian 65 mm/cal 64 gun, and possibly the 135 mm/cal 45, if they are not featured in any of the SH games yet.

VonDos · 05-25-16, 02:13 PM

Hi gap =) i'm not an expert in mod library models \ guns, but post if you want the pics, they can be really interesting!

BTW, Vaa allow me to use gunsVaa_Liliput library =) so release is really near!

mikey117us · 05-25-16, 03:34 PM

Also Gap is it possible to think of Modeling Single and Twin 12.7mm Breda SAFAT Heavy AA Machine Guns? The Twin SAFAT was also mounted on Turm VIIC/1 in 23 and 29 Flottillas in the Med, Real U-Boat Mod! They expanded and lenghthened the Wintergartens to give extra AA Defenses and mounted these built under license By Pre-War Agreement Browning M2 .50 caliber MGs Breda Manufactured. Breda also Sold Permission to the Japanese to build them as Aircraft Armaments and Vessel AA.

Jeff-Groves · 05-25-16, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonDos

BTW, Vaa allow me to use gunsVaa_Liliput library =) so release is really near!

Be aware that GWX 3 uses his Guns files already.

VonDos · 05-25-16, 04:27 PM

Hi Jeff!
I think files are same, shouldn't be a problem to overwrite them with JSGME or manually

(tested on my SH3+GWX3+a lot of mods)

05-22-16, 07:36 AM	#1
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,354 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 61	REQ - Permission for use a guns library Hi everyone! While finally testing RM Aquila new carrier, i've readed original project's specifications about guns: MAIN --> 8 × 135 mm (5.3 in)/45 cal guns SECONDARY --> 12 × 65 mm (2.56 in)/64 cal guns A\A --> 132 × 20 mm (0.79 in)/65 cal At moment ingame model use as secondary guns 4.0 in. single from standard guns library. Powerfull. Too powerfull in place of a 65mm cannon. I've searched into my library folder a more "historical" or similar gun, i've found "76mmRSingle" from gunsVaa_Liliput.dat, i think from "Vaa_Liliput" I've searched this member but i can find he, for ask permission to use his guns in final release. Does anyone know how to contact him for ask? Naturally if ok for him, i'll give credits __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508 Last edited by VonDos; 05-22-16 at 07:45 AM.

05-22-16, 08:53 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I can't find an user by that name or any name close to it. Where did you get the file from? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-22-16, 10:46 AM	#3
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	@ VonDos Bitts and railings on the lower deck are black rather than metal-gray. Did you make them like this on purpose or what is going on with their texture? __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/

05-22-16, 11:09 AM	#4
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	135 mm/45 (5.3") Models 1937 and 1938 65 mm/64 (2.56") Model 1939 20 mm/65 Models 1935, 1939 and 1940 (Breda) The 20mm guns were in a uncommon sextuple-mount configuration. I would be curious to see how they looked like __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/

05-22-16, 05:33 PM	#7
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,354 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 61	Thanks everyone! PM sent to Denis_469, waiting for.. @gap, yes, i've painted them black in this "detailed" pic they looks bad, but if you see the entire unit from a "normal" distance the effect is really good I think sextuple-mount configuration was just a project version, never realized (ingame i've used a quadruple more generic a\a) __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508

05-23-16, 07:14 AM	#8
Fahnenbohn Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: France Posts: 1,072 Downloads: 155 Uploads: 0	Were there really so many A/A guns ???

05-23-16, 12:11 PM	#10
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,354 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 61	Japanese Shinano had: 8 × twin 12.7 cm Type 89 dual-purpose guns 35 × triple 25 mm Type 96 AA guns *12 × 28 – 12 cm (4.7 in) AA rocket launchers* O_O ps @ gap Bitts will be repainted in dark gray.. i see they're good =) __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508 Last edited by VonDos; 05-23-16 at 12:22 PM.

05-25-16, 02:13 PM	#12
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,354 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 61	Hi gap =) i'm not an expert in mod library models \ guns, but post if you want the pics, they can be really interesting! BTW, Vaa allow me to use gunsVaa_Liliput library =) so release is really near! __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508

05-25-16, 03:34 PM	#13
mikey117us Engineer Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kalifornia Posts: 211 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Also Gap is it possible to think of Modeling Single and Twin 12.7mm Breda SAFAT Heavy AA Machine Guns? The Twin SAFAT was also mounted on Turm VIIC/1 in 23 and 29 Flottillas in the Med, Real U-Boat Mod! They expanded and lenghthened the Wintergartens to give extra AA Defenses and mounted these built under license By Pre-War Agreement Browning M2 .50 caliber MGs Breda Manufactured. Breda also Sold Permission to the Japanese to build them as Aircraft Armaments and Vessel AA.

05-25-16, 04:27 PM	#15
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,354 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 61	Hi Jeff! I think files are same, shouldn't be a problem to overwrite them with JSGME or manually (tested on my SH3+GWX3+a lot of mods) __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508