Does society have a responsibilty to help prevent stupid people from getting killed ?

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by u crank

Where will this lead?

To speed limits of 70km/h on country roads with trees at the road side...
We just got that here at some of my favorite motorcycling roads.
There was the normal limit of 100km/h there until recently and I really fail to see how anyone could crash his vehicle into the trees by accident at that speed but obviously some did and since 90 or 80 km/h is still waaaayyyy toooooo much to handle for the average driver we had to go all the way down to 70...on a wide road with mild curves where there was nor danger to driving at 100km/h unless one was a complete retard who doesn't know what the steering wheel or handle bars are good for....

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by u crank

I think that the principle behind this thinking is somewhat admirable but there is a catch. The more you protect people from themselves, the more dependent they will become on that protection. Where will this lead?

More lawsuits

[u crank]

As it is written " lawyers shall inherit the earth".

[fireftr18]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^
Similarly in the LEO business here in the UK.

When explaining to new colleagues how it was often the stupid people we would remove from the streets the response would occasionally be "But surely it is the criminals we remove?"

His response was always....."Nope, they're stupid, otherwise we wouldn't be catching them."

Yep! I've seen more people go to jail for the sheer reason of being stupid than anything else. Yes, they broke a law. The LEO just simply wanted to tell them to not do it again, or just go home. But Mr. Stupid had to get an attitude and argue, or be a jerk about it.

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by Dowly

I hate this smartphone culture, but it should not be punishable by being run over.

Yes they should.
Not because I hate the smartphone culture but because the cause of the problem is the use of the phone which makes you completely ignore your surroundings not the lack of safety measures that have been installed at crossings.

[Wolferz]

Set the traffic lights up to broadcast a signal to the cell phones to flash the screen for a red light, don't walk sign etc.

Ultimately, I'd just call it cleaning the gene pool when your Angry Birds becomes more important than your life and limbs.

Safety course...

THE CORRECT SPEED FOR USING A PHONE IS ZERO MPH /KPH
Remember, it won't kill you to pull over to answer that call or text!

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Set the traffic lights up to broadcast a signal to the cell phones to flash the screen for a red light, don't walk sign etc. ...

Yes, write an app that makes the cell phone screen flash red, and yell "STOP YOU MORON!" at you.

Also, add a small arrow to tell you where to go, to avoid obstacles in real life while looking at the screen all the time.
God there are thousand ideas Google and Appple will make money with

In the future, the phone will take a blood sample of you before or short after a fatal crash, so they can clone you, and replace your memories with Google Brain (tm)

Almost sounds a bit Philip K. Dickish

[Oberon]

I think if it will lead to anything it will just be the extension of pavement barriers so that people can only cross the road in set regulated areas, and these areas will have barriers to prevent people from walking out into the road accidentally when the traffic is flowing. Not particularly a bad thing really, since it will also stop young children from bolting out in front of cars too. Won't stop idiots from climbing the fence though.

[August]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I think if it will lead to anything it will just be the extension of pavement barriers so that people can only cross the road in set regulated areas, and these areas will have barriers to prevent people from walking out into the road accidentally when the traffic is flowing. Not particularly a bad thing really, since it will also stop young children from bolting out in front of cars too. Won't stop idiots from climbing the fence though.

What do you mean by pavement barriers? You mean like a fence or railing along the side of the road only broken at road crossings?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by August

What do you mean by pavement barriers? You mean like a fence or railing along the side of the road only broken at road crossings?

That's the one. You can still vault them if you're feeling athletic, but would discourage small children and accidental walking into traffic. I've seen a lot of them in London, I must admit they do irritate me sometimes since if you want to cross the street at a certain point then you have to go to the nearest crossing, but that's just laziness on my behalf.
Then at the crossings they'd put gates up like they have at railway crossings, so if someone does vault the gate and then gets mowed down by a car, then it's clearly not the car drivers fault.
It's a lot of work for infrastructure though, so not really plausible except for perhaps blackspots.

[Mittelwaechter]

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