Swearing

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

I see common ground between you: there often remain social pressures to extend respect to people for whom we do not feel it.

I once knew a woman who exhorted her children never to show respect to another person unless that person had earned it. I wanted to believe she was just expressing herself poorly, but she had ambitions to become a psychologist. I didn't feel much respect for her after that (though there was much else lacking in her behaviour... I could give a list) but common courtesy meant that I would continue to extend respect to her, but maybe that's more about being British

Of course, I wouldn't show this respect to someone who'd outright insulted me, but then who
would?
...

I have a bit of a dim view of psychologists, particularly analysts, in general, given the ones I have had contact with in the past. Shortly after my first ex and I broke up, I was encouraged to seek out psychological counseling although I didn't really feel the need. The psychologist I went to was highly regarded and, at one time in his career, was the head of a prominent US national psychologists organization. I only went to him for a short time; the bulk of his 'advice' was a marriage breakup wasn't the end of the world and I should just move on; there was also the problem that once he knew I played guitar and had been in a few bands, he would spend a large portion of the rather expensive hours talking about how he could have been a jazz horn player if he had only stayed in New Orleans in college. The great and rather tragic irony is the psychologist's own wife left him: he came home from the office to find his wife had cleared out all the furnishings from their home and just left behind a letter saying she was was leaving and telling him to address any future communications to her lawyer. The psychologist took his own advice and did move on, with the aid of a bottle of booze and an overdose of barbiturates...

There seems to be something perverse in seeking out a career listening constantly to the miseries of others and thinking you are immune to the vicissitudes of life merely because you have a PhD or MD after your name...

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

And what would I do if I ever met Justin Bieber?

I can't specifically advise you, but I will say if the encounter should result in the 'disappearance' of Beiber, I, and many others, would be very happy to rpovide you with an alibi...


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[Eichhörnchen]

I often think that these psychiatrists (and perhaps psychologists too) suspecting all the while a certain vulnerability in themselves, are seeking some kind of 'immunity', or some other way of addressing their own issues.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I don't think that the original goal of PC was to make sure that you admire someone because of their life choice, but to encourage you to not discriminate against someone because of it. The way I look at it, and I've seemingly become the chief constable of the PC Police, is that if you don't like someones life choice, that's fair enough, but don't be an arse about it, like refusing service to them, or insulting them, or committing acts of violence against them, just because of this life choice.
Really, at the end of the day, the best law in this regard is Wheatons Law.

I didnt equate PC with the word respect (admiration), you Byron Clark and the huffington post did.

Now what about Kunta Kinte? Who or what determines what a swear word is? Really how does it come about that a words origin which in the beginning had no vulgar, obscene meaning, is now placed on the verbotten list? According to George Carlin the FCC has a list of seven dirty words that cannot be spoken. Yet the Bible doesn't mention a thing about them, and people say the Bible is oppressive, hah!

[Aktungbby]

The great and rather tragic irony is the psychologist's own wife left him: he came home from the office to find his wife had cleared out all the furnishings from their home and just left behind a letter saying she was was leaving and telling him to address any future communications to her lawyer. The psychologist took his own advice and did move on, with the aid of a bottle of booze and an overdose of barbiturates...

His EGO not withstanding his SUPER EGO; his quID pro quo'd ?Did his estate refund your fee$ ? The id is the primitive and instinctive component of personality. It consists of all the inherited (i.e. biological) components of personality, including the sex (life) instinct – Eros (which contains the libido), and the aggressive (death) instinct - Thanatos.

[Eichhörnchen]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

The id is the primitive and instinctive component of personality.

"So I'm just a crazy mixed-up id?"

[vienna]

Yes you are, and I id you not...



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[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

"So I'm just a crazy mixed-up id?"

In your professional field of painting: not a bad thing! A little 'Hare of the Dog that bit U' (excess Sangria in Pablo's case) can lead to
or other distortions of ...

depending on what yer smokin'!

[vienna]

It is not PC to criticize PC!...



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[AVGWarhawk]

Seven pages. I swear.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Seven pages. I swear.

Which brings up an interesting sub-topic - swearing!

According to most modern dictionaries the first or second definition of "swear" is to use rude or "bad" language, i.e. profanity or vulgarity. As I understand it that definition of the word is fairly new. "To Swear" originally (and still does by one definition) meant to take an oath - "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth." In the Bible when Jesus gives his injunction against swearing, that is the meaning intended. Don't make oaths, just let it be known that when you say "yes" or "no" you mean it.
http://english.stackexchange.com/que...aning-of-swear
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...atthew+5:34-37

[mapuc]

Here's my 5-cent on this topic

I like it as it is-no need to change.

Some stories I have read and heard.

Story 1(read)

You can use swearing in you vocabulary to tell a person, to go to a very hot place

Or you can use diplomacy and write it in a such way that the person is looking forward to the journey to this hot place.

Story 2(heard)
My Brother-In-Law said to his children-you can't close your ears to prevent them from hearing bad/ugly words. I will however not hear them here in our house or at other family related.

So this is how I see it.

Markus

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Which brings up an interesting sub-topic - swearing!

According to most modern dictionaries the first or second definition of "swear" is to use rude or "bad" language, i.e. profanity or vulgarity. As I understand it that definition of the word is fairly new. "To Swear" originally (and still does by one definition) meant to take an oath - "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth." In the Bible when Jesus gives his injunction against swearing, that is the meaning intended. Don't make oaths, just let it be known that when you say "yes" or "no" you mean it.
http://english.stackexchange.com/que...aning-of-swear
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...atthew+5:34-37

So it's also against the rules to lie?

[Rockstar]

I think we've been over this before.

And it shall be if they nevertheless learn the way of My people to swear in My name "As YHWH lives," in the way that they taught My people to swear by Ba'al, then they shall be built into My people. ( Jeremiah 12:16)

I was always fascinated by this prophecy because it is speaking to the Gentiles, not the Israelites! It's directed at those Gentiles who taught Israel to swear by Baal. If these Gentiles will learn to swear "As YHWH lives" then they will become a part of the covenant-nation.

Obviously this has not happened yet. At this point most Israelites have forgotten how to swear "As YHWH lives" and I am not aware of too many Gentiles who do this either. But this is a promise that in the end-time the Gentiles will learn to swear in the name of YHWH and through this they will be built into Israel.

Then comes along Jesus in the Greek Matthew (5:33-37) who did away with swearing, even saying that he who swears was of "the evil one." If this is really what Jesus said, then he would not only be annulling Torah but delaying the fulfillment of the end-times prophecy in Jeremiah.

However! Before passing final judgment on Jesus I double checked in the Hebrew language Matthew. "You have further heard what was said by the ancients, "you shall not swear falsely by my name" [Leviticus 19:12] but you must pay your vow to YHWH [Deuteronomy 23:21]. But I say to you, that you must not swear by anything falsely, not by heaven which is the throne of God, nor by the earth which is His footstool, nor by [Jerusalem] which is His city, nor by your head because you cannot make one hair white or black, But let your yes be yes and your no, no. Anything added to this is evil. (Hebrew Matthew 5:33-37)

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Seven pages. I swear.

Spare a thought for who is maintaining the watch

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Spare a thought for who is maintaining the watch

The Swiss?