Game Start Issues

MortuusSum · 04-08-16, 09:17 AM

Hey folks. Guess this is an introduction as well as a plea for help; I'm MortuusSum, or Craig if y'don't like fake names. I've never played a Sub simulator before, but I've been re-reading The Hunt for Red October and I figured "Why not". In terms of sims I have played, I come to you via Rise of Flight and IL2-Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover. I may be an idiot when it comes to submarines, but let me get my S.E.5a and I'll show you who's the idiot in the sky*!

Anyway, I've been having some trouble with SH4. In that I can't start the damn thing. I bought it on steam, because the alternatives were horrifying (http://puu.sh/oaGWc/d297573582.png, thanks Amazon), and when I try to launch it, I get a black screen with the error message "Can not[sic] initialize 3D engine". I found a thread on this forum going into the same issue with SH3, but the solutions there aren't working for me, unfortunately.

Here's my specs, since I assume those wiser and older than I will need them to magically solve this problem. Thanks a ton in advance for your help.
http://puu.sh/oaImO/e0282f8cbc.png

*It's still me. I love the S.E.5 to death, but I can't pilot an energy fighter worth ****.

cdrsubron7 · 04-08-16, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MortuusSum

Hey folks. Guess this is an introduction as well as a plea for help; I'm MortuusSum, or Craig if y'don't like fake names. I've never played a Sub simulator before, but I've been re-reading The Hunt for Red October and I figured "Why not". In terms of sims I have played, I come to you via Rise of Flight and IL2-Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover. I may be an idiot when it comes to submarines, but let me get my S.E.5a and I'll show you who's the idiot in the sky*!

Anyway, I've been having some trouble with SH4. In that I can't start the damn thing. I bought it on steam, because the alternatives were horrifying (http://puu.sh/oaGWc/d297573582.png), and when I try to launch it, I get a black screen with the error message "Can not[sic] initialize 3D engine". I found a thread on this forum going into the same issue with SH3, but the solutions there aren't working for me, unfortunately.

Here's my specs, since I assume those wiser and older than I will need them to magically solve this problem. Thanks a ton in advance for your help.
http://puu.sh/oaImO/e0282f8cbc.png

*It's still me. I love the S.E.5 to death, but I can't pilot an energy fighter worth ****.

What you need to do is install DirectX 9.0c. The game requires it in order to run correctly.

BTW, Welcome to our little insane asylum. Happy to have you aboard.

MortuusSum · 04-08-16, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

What you need to do is install DirectX 9.0c. The game requires it in order to run correctly.

BTW, Welcome to our little insane asylum. Happy to have you aboard.

Welp. Thanks very much for your help with my stupid problem. Also, thanks very much for your kind welcome!

Aktungbby · 04-08-16, 11:07 AM

MortuusSum!

04-08-16, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

What you need to do is install DirectX 9.0c. The game requires it in order to run correctly.

Hmm ... I am running correctly SH4 under DirectX 11.
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Oh - also from me a Hello and welcome.

AVGWarhawk · 04-08-16, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleiente

Hmm ... I am running correctly SH4 under DirectX 11.
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Oh - also from me a Hello and welcome.

I believe you can run the game on DX9 or better.

MortuusSum · 04-08-16, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleiente

Hmm ... I am running correctly SH4 under DirectX 11.
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Oh - also from me a Hello and welcome.

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I believe you can run the game on DX9 or better.

In that case, something else is going on. I have DirectX 11.1 installed already, and I've tried a few different methods of installing DX9.0c (This one: http://www.dosgamers.com/directx-9-windows-10-windows-8 seemed like it would work, but unfortunately after completing the directions there is no change). Well, I'll have to just put submarines on the back burner for now, unless someone else knows what's up. I'll keep working at it.

Rockin Robbins · 04-08-16, 12:04 PM

Mortuus, where is that game installed. Putting it into the /program files (x86) directory subjects it to all sorts of operating system protected status. You should install it into a separate directory connected directly to the root directory of your hard drive, example: c:\wolves of the pacific. With Steam, just make sure that the program lives outside the Program Files or Program Files (x86) directories.

It isn't 100% sure that is your problem but it may be the case.

cdrsubron7 · 04-08-16, 12:09 PM

This DX 9.0c is from the MS website. It should work better for you, I hope.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down....aspx?id=34429

MortuusSum · 04-08-16, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Mortuus, where is that game installed. Putting it into the /program files (x86) directory subjects it to all sorts of operating system protected status. You should install it into a separate directory connected directly to the root directory of your hard drive, example: c:\wolves of the pacific. With Steam, just make sure that the program lives outside the Program Files or Program Files (x86) directories.

It isn't 100% sure that is your problem but it may be the case.

Well, even if that doesn't solve it, I've been meaning to move my Steam installation out of Program Files (x86) for a while anyway. Might as well get it done now.

cdrsubron7 · 04-08-16, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MortuusSum

Well, even if that doesn't solve it, I've been meaning to move my Steam installation out of Program Files (x86) for a while anyway. Might as well get it done now.

Hope that solves your problem.

fireftr18 · 04-08-16, 08:00 PM

Welcome aboard MortuusSum!

Help will always be given at Subsim to those who ask.

I was told a long time ago, that SH4 needs the directx that comes with the game. I'm not sure if that's true, but to be safe, I installed that one. I haven't had any problems, even with later versions of directx.

Now when you're through getting the game to work, we need you to start scraping barnacles. Wolferz needs a lot of help getting rid of them.

slipf18 · 04-08-16, 08:34 PM

SH4 Gold is $19.95 on Amazon for download version.I just bought it 2 weeks ago. I had to bugger around a bit to get that one to work.

But my previous version, the Steam version, was pretty much plug and play. However, it DID install Direct X 9.

I have Windows 10 as well. On a Lenovo Laptop. Steam put it in

C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/SteamApps/Common/

But as I say never had a problem with it there.

MortuusSum · 04-08-16, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by slipf18

SH4 Gold is $19.95 on Amazon for download version.I just bought it 2 weeks ago.

Unfortunately, Amazon doesn't let people in Canada buy download versions of software. No idea why, they just don't like us, apparently. Well, I'll keep workin' at it; changing Steam's install location didn't work either. Maybe it'll turn out to be some kind of obscure problem with my computer specifically, and at this point I'm kinda hoping that's what it is, since I'm about two weeks away from putting finishing up my new build.

Jimbuna · 04-09-16, 07:52 AM

Do you have a separate or partitioned drive because an ideal location would be D drive, Games folder>SH4

04-08-16, 09:17 AM	#1
MortuusSum Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 10 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Game Start Issues Hey folks. Guess this is an introduction as well as a plea for help; I'm MortuusSum, or Craig if y'don't like fake names. I've never played a Sub simulator before, but I've been re-reading The Hunt for Red October and I figured "Why not". In terms of sims I have played, I come to you via Rise of Flight and IL2-Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover. I may be an idiot when it comes to submarines, but let me get my S.E.5a and I'll show you who's the idiot in the sky! Anyway, I've been having some trouble with SH4. In that I can't start the damn thing. I bought it on steam, because the alternatives were horrifying (http://puu.sh/oaGWc/d297573582.png, thanks Amazon), and when I try to launch it, I get a black screen with the error message "Can not[sic] initialize 3D engine". I found a thread on this forum going into the same issue with SH3, but the solutions there aren't working for me, unfortunately. Here's my specs, since I assume those wiser and older than I will need them to magically solve this problem. Thanks a ton in advance for your help. http://puu.sh/oaImO/e0282f8cbc.png It's still me. I love the S.E.5 to death, but I can't pilot an energy fighter worth ***. Last edited by MortuusSum; 04-08-16 at 10:30 AM.*

04-08-16, 11:07 AM	#4
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,012 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard! MortuusSum! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

04-08-16, 12:04 PM	#8
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Mortuus, where is that game installed. Putting it into the /program files (x86) directory subjects it to all sorts of operating system protected status. You should install it into a separate directory connected directly to the root directory of your hard drive, example: c:\wolves of the pacific. With Steam, just make sure that the program lives outside the Program Files or Program Files (x86) directories. It isn't 100% sure that is your problem but it may be the case. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

04-08-16, 12:09 PM	#9
cdrsubron7 Sink'em All Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 2,150 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 1	This DX 9.0c is from the MS website. It should work better for you, I hope. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down....aspx?id=34429 __________________ Head Deep and Keep'em Astern" - LtCDR Samuel D Dealy SHIV Guide \| Imperial Japanese Navy \| US Submarines

04-08-16, 08:00 PM	#12
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard MortuusSum! Help will always be given at Subsim to those who ask. I was told a long time ago, that SH4 needs the directx that comes with the game. I'm not sure if that's true, but to be safe, I installed that one. I haven't had any problems, even with later versions of directx. Now when you're through getting the game to work, we need you to start scraping barnacles. Wolferz needs a lot of help getting rid of them. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

04-08-16, 08:34 PM	#13
slipf18 Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 44 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	SH4 Gold is $19.95 on Amazon for download version.I just bought it 2 weeks ago. I had to bugger around a bit to get that one to work. But my previous version, the Steam version, was pretty much plug and play. However, it DID install Direct X 9. I have Windows 10 as well. On a Lenovo Laptop. Steam put it in C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/SteamApps/Common/ But as I say never had a problem with it there.

04-09-16, 07:52 AM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Do you have a separate or partitioned drive because an ideal location would be D drive, Games folder>SH4 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!