Swearing

[Aktungbby]

Well if we subsimmers are the armchair 'military geniuses' which what we all think we are **** (fourstar) General 'Stormin Normin' Schwarzkopf famously set the standard when he used the expression 'bovine scatology' instead of the mundane B.S. No need to be vulgar or violate Neal's FAQ exceedingly reasonable rules. English is a fabulous language of innumerable facets and subtleties; let's stay creative-it's actually more fun.

[Mr Quatro]

I like things (meaning the rules) the way they are

Too many youtube comments are just meant to flame and boy do they do that

But if Trump wins we will have to change the rules, right?
I mean after all the POTUS

Would this poster be considered rude?

[Aktungbby]

But if Trump wins we will have to change the rules, right?

Originally Posted by FAQ

...do NOT e-mail the moderators or admin to complain or argue a case. Take it like a man, wait out your time,...

No changing the rules!!!; Sailor Steve would (righteously)'schlong' us! ...and we'd have to " take it like a man" per the FAQ ! http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/56823/trumps-yiddish-fighting-words-hillary-got-shlonged-by-obama-in-2008-jerusalem/#e8P3FiiZrLulEf1r.97

[Eichhörnchen]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

English is a fabulous language of innumerable facets and subtleties; let's stay creative-it's actually more fun.

I'd want things to stay the way they are, allowing those of us who want to have a bit of fun with innuendo still to do so. Some rude words do add greatly in emphasising a point, but once they're allowed then there's no going back and I agree with Neal that current standards keep Subsim a cut above and a'classier' place to hang out.

But, as with spelling, there are differences between UK and US English that create anomalies, also traditions of bawdy usage on this side of the ocean which we think of as harmless but US readers either wouldn't get and/or suspect were offensive. I know the reverse is also true, where a few fairly mild terms Americans use with impunity might raise very disapproving looks here. I've used these (I have to confess) hoping that they'd raise a titter among my mates in the UK and Oz, but at the same time get past a moderator... sorry

"I never understood why I'm allowed to say bollocks..."


One other thing:

I don't want to derail by mention of the related subject of vulgarity, but just as this can involve use of bad language, it also can make use of euphemism... does that offend as well?

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[Oberon]

If arresting the decline of morality is the goal then swearing is just the tip of the iceberg.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Oberon

If arresting the decline of morality is the goal then swearing is just the tip of the iceberg.

Wan't it the tip of an iceberg that sank the Titanic?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Wan't it the tip of an iceberg that sank the Titanic?

It certainly didn't help...

[Skybird]

You can play foul by calling names and using certain improper words, and you can misbehave by acting underhandedly and using poisonous rhetoric tricks and traps.

Of the two, I take much greater offence from the latter. The barb goes much deeper, the trick is meaner, the wound hurts more.

As long as this discrepancy between foul words and underhanded rhetorics is not properly considered, I do not give overly much for rules just banning words. Fouls words are the lesser evil.

[STEED]

According to medical research having a good swear is good for you to release stress tension and mild anger in a face to face situation, can it work on a heated thread?

Maybe to a point but the elephant in the room brings us to the known fact if you can go on and on and get more heated knowing full well the person you are having a ding dong with is not going to punch you in the face as their miles if not hundred plus miles way, so in steps the mod guys to throw some water on the fire.

Its Neal website and he sets the rules, that said I'm sure Neal believes in democracy here on subsims.

[Wolferz]

By that definition, no word can be considered bad. It's the context in which they are used that make them bad.
Still, the use of salty language accomplishes one thing and one thing only,
It reveals the author's clear lack of vocabulary and makes the entire post subject to suspicion of idiocy and a quick invite to exit the premises.
We're all fairly intelligent folk here and it's better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. This becomes all too apparent when we choose to litter our posts with the excrement of our minds.

Keep it clean and we won't have all the flies buzzing around. Steve broke his fly swatter.

[August]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

By that definition, no word can be considered bad. It's the context in which they are used that make them bad.

Oh I can think of a few words and phrases that would be considered bad regardless of context.

It reveals the author's clear lack of vocabulary

I've known people (mostly Sergeants) who can elevate swearing into an art form and the last thing anyone would do is accuse them of being idiots.

[Jimbuna]

My personal 'Moderators' opinion.

This is a really interesting topic/discussion and one I have discussed with Neal on occasion but a great many times more with Steve (Both in person and on Skype).

I can identify with the pros and cons of a few of the comments posted but two that particularly stand out imho are below:

Neal
I just want to keep this place a little classier than a YouTube or Live Leak comment section, you know.

Social morality is in a long, sad slide, I don't want to contribute to it.

Eichhörnchen
I'd want things to stay the way they are, allowing those of us who want to have a bit of fun with innuendo still to do so.
Some rude words do add greatly in emphasising a point, but once they're allowed then there's no going back and I agree with
Neal that current standards keep Subsim a cut above and a'classier' place to hang out.

A moderator whilst being aware that Neal prefers they act with as 'light a touch' whenever possible must also take into account that any actions they take are open to scrutiny by all forum members and as such must walk that fine line with the knowledge that they can never please everyone all of the time.

With the above in mind I try to adhere to the basic principle that this is Neals house and as such I agree with the FAQ & Rules as set out and in this case, this line in particular...

Always stay on the conservative side if you have any doubt. This forum is family safe.

All the above is obviously currently open to discussion and debate as well as potential change but I honestly don't see the need to change the wheel if it isn't broken.

Don't misinterpret the above as coming from somebody that is opposed to change because it is most definitely not.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Wan't it the tip of an iceberg that sank the Titanic?

More than one unfortunate outcome started with the phrase: "No, really, just the tip..."...







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[Dowly]

Originally Posted by vienna

"No, really, just the tip..."...

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Wan't it the tip of an iceberg that sank the Titanic?

Steamship or canoe it's all the same @VIENNA Yeah BBY! U-666